gangstahic Posted August 16, 2011 Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 I run a billet basket and fast clutch and shifts fine. gotcha how much did that setup cost you? and how long have u been running it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryv4 Posted August 16, 2011 Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 gotcha how much did that setup cost you? and how long have u been running it? through m&m the 421 kit (68mm cub cylinders,4mil crank,head, domes, and pistons) was $1700 then with small stuff like billet basket new clutches lock out lockout cover and dunable override i have $2500 into it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gangstahic Posted August 16, 2011 Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 Ohh so u do run a lockoutt...yaa ill prob jus go down that road just don't wanna do a overide trans cuz I hit the trails alot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barahonapr Posted August 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 Ok so I have decided for sure now I am doing a 421 serval. Now my problem is with who to go with..I see m&m have the complete kit on sale right now for 1400..fast is a little more expensive but I want them doing all the work on it..anyone have any cons on m&m stuff and jeff can u please pm me a price or call me on a complete kit comparable with there's. Thanks guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
252wheelieking Posted August 18, 2011 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 i'd recomend a top case fill and match and a billet basket and a stock cut transmission and your gonna need a good clutch also. ( these are for some reason are left out of the recomended builds?) What is a top case fill? Is that something like case porting to match the cylinders? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbcmudtruck Posted August 18, 2011 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 Since your basically starting from scratch, You'll need: cylinders pistons 4mil crank, welded as well as new bearings Port match the cases 35 pwks filters billet basket fast clutch pipes billet water impeller Cool head with domes cut for the 4mil and your setup. ie race, pump or alky I'd recomend a lockout and if your going to run a lockout, you'll need a cover unless your run a gigot. Pancake bearing Gaskets and an oring kit We just got done putting together a fast 4mil with all the above mentioned, was well as a duneable 1-5 and it freakin rips. The power curve on this thing is insane. We run the original set of Rockets on it as well. One thing I've learned over the years of fuckin around with these banshees is that you cant short cut anything. If your going to do it, don't half ass it. You'll save money in the long run. Any of the older guys will tell you the same. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barahonapr Posted August 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2011 Well my motor is on its way to FAST . Full 421 serval kit getting done!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barahonapr Posted August 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2011 Well here it is before shipping it out..that way I can see the big difference when I get it back.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryv4 Posted August 21, 2011 Report Share Posted August 21, 2011 Well here it is before shipping it out..that way I can see the big difference when I get it back.. make sure you have him do the stock tranny mod or you are not gonna shift worth shit its like 150 dollars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barahonapr Posted August 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 Yea its definitely getting done right..so hopefully I have a nice 4 mil serval when its done..jeff suggested 35 carbs..so that's what im going with unless anyone gas any opinions. Oh and u will be running in frame shearer pipes.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barahonapr Posted September 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2011 So my motor is getting done at FAST right now. I was wondering what type of clutch I should b going with..any suggestions would help alot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strm Trpr Posted September 3, 2011 Report Share Posted September 3, 2011 (edited) The Serval is going to test your entire clutch and shifting mechanisms. Now is a good time to do maintenance on the entire clutch system. All the way from the clutch lever to the pancake bearing. I would get the following from FAST: Modded Shift Shaft / Spring and Oil Seal New Eccentric Screw New Locking Tab Billet Basket and New Locking Tab FAST Clutch and Springs Pancake Bearing ?Clutch Push Rod and Ball? ?Clutch Actuator and Seal? ?New Clutch Inner Hub? ?New Clutch Pressure Plate? ?Clutch Cable? Find an Ez Pull Clutch Lever http://bansheehq.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=146323&st=0&p=1261960&hl="ez%20pull"&fromsearch=1entry1261960 They say a lock-up recommended, but people say their FAST Clutch Kit has worked just fine. Edited September 3, 2011 by Strm Trpr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barahonapr Posted September 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2011 Yea I heard about the lock up clutch. So what's the difference in the 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strm Trpr Posted September 4, 2011 Report Share Posted September 4, 2011 Yea I heard about the lock up clutch. So what's the difference in the 2 This link will educate you, it helped me out. http://www.directdrivecnc.net/banlockout.html You can also do a search by selecting the little snowflake looking icon in the upper right hand corner of the page. Type "lock-out" or "lock-up". Include the quotes and select "search titles only". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberneck Posted September 4, 2011 Report Share Posted September 4, 2011 I ran a fast clutch with 6 hd springs and no lock up on a 421 cub on gas in my dune bike long before the servals were availaible. Absolutely no problems. My opinion is do not do a lock up unless you are doing an override Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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