decon Posted August 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2011 Well i believe i said it's not the jetting if im not mistaken, but thanks for the "How-to" article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LS3 Machine Posted August 25, 2011 Report Share Posted August 25, 2011 Well i believe i said it's not the jetting if im not mistaken, but thanks for the "How-to" article. Just because you said it's not jetting doesn't mean it isn't. The friggin owner of the website even posted thinking its jetting. Your symptoms sound like the needle is in the wrong clip position... but hey....you said it's not jetting... so it must not be jetting. There are a lot of mechanics out there... and there are some actually good mechanics out there. Scrap the Chinese copy PWK and get some real ones (from a forum sponsor), and someone that knows how to tune a bashee and Im pretty sure the problem will be fixed.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decon Posted August 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2011 (edited) Just because you said it's not jetting doesn't mean it isn't. The friggin owner of the website even posted thinking its jetting. Your symptoms sound like the needle is in the wrong clip position... but hey....you said it's not jettibg... so it must not be jetting. There are a lot of mechanics out there... and there are some actually good mechanics out there. Scrap the Chinese copy PWK and get some real ones (from a forum sponsor), and someone that knows how to tune a bashee and Im pretty sure the problem will be fixed.... I never implied that the mechanic's who worked on his bike were any good, but even with the needle clip in the wrong position it still shouldn't run as bad as it runs now. Hell, it barely even "runs". But, whenever I find someone who knows how to tune a "bashee" you'll be the first to know. Edited August 25, 2011 by dEcon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LS3 Machine Posted August 25, 2011 Report Share Posted August 25, 2011 I never implied that the mechanic's who worked on his bike were any good, but even with the needle clip in the wrong position it still shouldnt run as bad as it runs now. Hell, it barely even "runs". But, whenever I find someone who knows how to tune a "bashee" you'll be the first to know. So you know how to tune a banshee? If so, have you systematically verified it's not the carb tuning? That is absolutely not true about the needle clip position. Mine had bad clip position and didn't run right either. Im just trying to help here, but I guess you have your mind made up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decon Posted August 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2011 (edited) So you know how to tune a banshee? If so, have you systematically verified it's not the carb tuning? That is absolutely not true about the needle clip position. Mine had bad clip position and didn't run right either. Im just trying to help here, but I guess you have your mind made up. We've tried different pilots, needles, clip positions, mains, even carbs. Any SLIGHT change in the jetting does absolutely NOTHING. Im not trying to be an asshole but if your trying to help, do so without the condescending remarks. So now lets get back on topic, Im not trying to turn this into a pissing match. Edited August 25, 2011 by dEcon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vifferman Posted August 25, 2011 Report Share Posted August 25, 2011 We've tried different pilots, needles, clip positions, mains, even carbs. Any SLIGHT change in the jetting does absolutely NOTHING. Im not trying to be an asshole but if your trying to help, do so without the condescending remarks. So now lets get back on topic, Im not trying to turn this into a pissing match. You're asking for help on a forum dedicated to Banshees and getting advice from guys that rebuild them in their sleep. LISTEN TO THEM! Where do you live? There might be someone from the HQ that is close enough to help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasi S. Posted August 25, 2011 Report Share Posted August 25, 2011 I´m not a pro or anything, but you should listen to these guys over here. No electrical issues? No jetting issue? Good spark, gets gas and air. Good compression and squish with good spark plugs. No leaks. What can it be? Are the pistons in in a right way? Windows to the intake side? When was it running good, and what has done to it after that? -Pasi S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vifferman Posted August 25, 2011 Report Share Posted August 25, 2011 I´m not a pro or anything, but you should listen to these guys over here. No electrical issues? No jetting issue? Good spark, gets gas and air. Good compression and squish with good spark plugs. No leaks. What can it be? Are the pistons in in a right way? Windows to the intake side? When was it running good, and what has done to it after that? -Pasi S. I didn't even think about the backwards piston issue, that would do it too. Who did the top end? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decon Posted September 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 Here's a video of the bike. We just changed the stator, still does the same thing. Btw I am riding at WOT. http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g192/akickz/de323ae3.mp4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LS3 Machine Posted September 10, 2011 Report Share Posted September 10, 2011 Here's a video of the bike. We just changed the stator, still does the same thing. Btw I am riding at WOT. http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g192/akickz/de323ae3.mp4 I checked out the video. This is a tough one. The OKO Carbs are crap from what Ive heard BTW. You said you tried some other carbs from a running bike? What carbs were they, and did it change much, if any? Who built this bike? I wonder about the backwards piston issue as well? Good plugs and plug wires? I still wonder about the needle adjustment. I would max out the needle on the top clip, and ride it, and then try bottom clip and ride it. If it improves in either direction, you found the problem. Good luck and keep us posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decon Posted September 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2011 I checked out the video. This is a tough one. The OKO Carbs are crap from what Ive heard BTW. You said you tried some other carbs from a running bike? What carbs were they, and did it change much, if any? Who built this bike? I wonder about the backwards piston issue as well? Good plugs and plug wires? I still wonder about the needle adjustment. I would max out the needle on the top clip, and ride it, and then try bottom clip and ride it. If it improves in either direction, you found the problem. Good luck and keep us posted. We tried 28mm pwk's on this bike and it ran the Same exact way. The cylinders were bored and ported by Dave Moore racing, but the owner of the bike put the top end together. The pistons are in the right way and the plugs are good as well as the wires, we even tried the coil off of my running bike. Jetting does nothing to help this issue, like I said before we've tried everything. Recently we tried a different stock stator and flywheel, it still runs the same. I even disconnected the Pb rev limiter from the wiring harness (green/yellow striped wire) and it still does nothing. I also tried disconnecting the wires for the brake light from the handlebars and rear brake lever (the bike is a 2003). I'm stumped at this point... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LS3 Machine Posted September 10, 2011 Report Share Posted September 10, 2011 We tried 28mm pwk's on this bike and it ran the Same exact way. The cylinders were bored and ported by Dave Moore racing, but the owner of the bike put the top end together. The pistons are in the right way and the plugs are good as well as the wires, we even tried the coil off of my running bike. Jetting does nothing to help this issue, like I said before we've tried everything. Recently we tried a different stock stator and flywheel, it still runs the same. I even disconnected the Pb rev limiter from the wiring harness (green/yellow striped wire) and it still does nothing. I also tried disconnecting the wires for the brake light from the handlebars and rear brake lever (the bike is a 2003). I'm stumped at this point... Yeah quote what the tree said to the lumberjack for me as well. I dont know what to say. Did your buddy do a top end rebuild, or crank and topend? Im reaching a bit here, but maybe something is 180 degrees out? Or less than 180 out? Like the timing plate retarded a bunch.... Im not a Banshee expert like some guys here.... but man this is a tough one. Maybe if someone like Kevin at Herr Jugs saw the video? Someone that has seen it all, banshee-wise. Bump for you.... Good Luck.. and NEVER GIVE UP! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
252wheelieking Posted September 10, 2011 Report Share Posted September 10, 2011 Ask the guy that ported the cylinders what your port timings are? Have you done a Leakdown/Compression test? Sorry if someone already asked this as I didn't read the whole thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LS3 Machine Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 Whats ever happened with this bike? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decon Posted September 26, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2011 Yeah quote what the tree said to the lumberjack for me as well. I dont know what to say. Did your buddy do a top end rebuild, or crank and topend? Im reaching a bit here, but maybe something is 180 degrees out? Or less than 180 out? Like the timing plate retarded a bunch.... Im not a Banshee expert like some guys here.... but man this is a tough one. Maybe if someone like Kevin at Herr Jugs saw the video? Someone that has seen it all, banshee-wise. Bump for you.... Good Luck.. and NEVER GIVE UP! He did a top rebuild. He informed something happened to the bike before he did the top end, which caused him to open the bottom end and check the crank out but everything was in spec. Timing plate is set at +4 Ask the guy that ported the cylinders what your port timings are? Have you done a Leakdown/Compression test? Sorry if someone already asked this as I didn't read the whole thread. We did a leakdown and compression test, everything was fine. Not sure what the port timings are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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