Jgspahn Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 Hey guys. Still a newbie here, but Im gaining knowledge everyday. This is a freaking great site, I usually surf around the forums for at least an hour a day. Anyway, here's my question: Im waiting on my stock motor to arrive, then ill spend what money I need to to get the bike in good running shape before I start modding. Like I said im completely new to the world of 2-strokes and Banshees. Is there a website or a forum post that ive missed that kinda goes over what kinda mods to what? I know thats a pretty tough and large amount of info, but I dont even know where to start. I dont know what order to proceed in buying my parts. I dont know what pipes are better for low end or top end. I dunno if you have to kinda pair parts up I.E.: pipes, air filters, and jets... but what if I just want some after market reeds, do I need other stuff to make them run right?? Im looking for research and reading material I guess.. can anyone help me out??? THANKS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcalsv02 Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 Hey guys. Still a newbie here, but Im gaining knowledge everyday. This is a freaking great site, I usually surf around the forums for at least an hour a day. Anyway, here's my question: Im waiting on my stock motor to arrive, then ill spend what money I need to to get the bike in good running shape before I start modding. Like I said im completely new to the world of 2-strokes and Banshees. Is there a website or a forum post that ive missed that kinda goes over what kinda mods to what? I know thats a pretty tough and large amount of info, but I dont even know where to start. I dont know what order to proceed in buying my parts. I dont know what pipes are better for low end or top end. I dunno if you have to kinda pair parts up I.E.: pipes, air filters, and jets... but what if I just want some after market reeds, do I need other stuff to make them run right?? Im looking for research and reading material I guess.. can anyone help me out??? THANKS! Welcome! I would look for pipes and silencers first. You get a pretty substantial gain just by getting rid of your stock pipes. Gonna need to re jet after. also depends on what type of riding you do and what type of power you are looking for...i.e. dirt, sand, snow, top end power, mid, bottom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jgspahn Posted July 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 Welcome! I would look for pipes and silencers first. You get a pretty substantial gain just by getting rid of your stock pipes. Gonna need to re jet after. also depends on what type of riding you do and what type of power you are looking for...i.e. dirt, sand, snow, top end power, mid, bottom. Im in Mississiippi.. No sand or snow or anything.. It will pretty much just be something to have some fun on. As far as where I want the power, I really have no idea. I want a "fast" bike that is torqy and fun to ride. I have an air strip Ill be able to run wide open on, but ill also be doing some trail riding. I know that doesnt help much on exactly what I want. It definately wont be a drag bike by any means. I also want it to be reliable. I know im kinda ramblin here..... Is there a form/questionaire I can fill out for this lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry's Shee Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 First Q I have is why you had to get an engine? Next is what you want to do with your ride? Then how much you going to spend? As far as "matching" parts, that's a big part of overall performance. Keep reading/searching. Look at what others are using. There is a thread somewhere that lists most pipes and where they make power. Also your ability to tune should guide where you're headed. Start simple and build from there. Advance timing, improve air flow, add pipes, good reeds. This could go on forever. Learn from others mistakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry's Shee Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 That's what I'm talking about . An air strip and trails are two totally different worlds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jereme6655 Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 my first question is........have you ever ridden a banshee before? or a 2-stroke for that matter? this will play a part in where you want the power...... if you are used to a 4-stroke then your in for a surprise in just the small little 350's bite when it hits in the powerband (also called coming up on the pipe) my suggestion is to read as much as you can on how to jet a 2-stroke on this site......then ride it with the stock motor that your recieving. After that is when i would hop back on here to ask what type of mods you should do... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jgspahn Posted July 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2011 Have I ridden a banshee before: No Have I ridden a 2- stroke before: No Why did I get a new motor: Bought the bike as a project and the motor is in pieces so I wanted to get one cheap and all the way together to so I could learn about the old one but still have something to play with What do I want to do with the bike: The air strip is just to play and test, the majority of my ridding will be done on trails and back roads. I just want a FUN bike to ride.. I know that gives little on where I want the power.. Ummm I guess mid range is where Id want it... I dont need all the 120 mph top speed lol, but I dont want it all to go away either.. Cant I have it both ways lol Price Range: Well I set back 1500 for starters, bought and engine and a few other things the bike was needing and now I have about 1000 bucks left.. for now.. I want the best bang for my buck in the beginning.. after this summer and when it gets cold Ill save up some more money and maybe do some stuff that requires tearing down the motor and what not So from what Im reading I should go with: Pipes, Jets, and filters to begin with.. basic.. good power.. and all work well together.. Where do reeds come into the picture? and what about a Cool head? annnnd that timing advance I read so much about on here.... Thanks for all your help on here guys.. I know I ask alot of questions but Im soaking this knowledge up like a sponge! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonpeter0420 Posted July 15, 2011 Report Share Posted July 15, 2011 Listen to these guys start off with some pipes. This forum is a great source of info start reading and go from there. Good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toytech Posted July 15, 2011 Report Share Posted July 15, 2011 do you need spark aresters in your state? FMF fattys with turbine core silencers or toomey T5s are both good pipes for low to mid power are still have decent topend power but not great on top. coolhead, v force reeds, a K&N filter and remove the airbox lid, 4degree timing plate, tors removal kit,and maybe an mx port by FAST racing, would be a great start! the sky and your bank acount are the liimit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrockMoto Posted July 15, 2011 Report Share Posted July 15, 2011 so without pipes your alittle behind but if you have 1000 dollars... check out Kevin Herr's stuff... believe his website has the 4mill kit for around that... but you'd want pipes too keep in mind this would be diving in so if thats a little much remember what Larry said.... Start simple... first thing you need is a clymer manual Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
06specialedition Posted July 15, 2011 Report Share Posted July 15, 2011 Welcome to BHQ! What you want to do is start with all your basic bolt ons.......Pipes, Filters, Adjustable Timing Plate, Cool Head or Milled Head, Reeds...etc. When you are ready to buy I would call a site sponsor on here, or you could even find some great deals from other members in the for sale section. Find you some nice used pipes on here, and throw some air filters on. Just those two things will make your bike a whole new beast. ANYTHING you do that changes the air/fuel....you need to re-jet. To suggest some good all around pipes too you, I really like Pro Circuits. They have great low end, but they rip really hard on top. I personally run CPI's. CPI's don't have near the low end as the pro circuits, but mid to top the pc's don't even compair to the CPI's. Lots of stuff to think about and lots of good info and reading on here. Everyone has there own opinion on what part is better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bansheesandrider Posted July 15, 2011 Report Share Posted July 15, 2011 (edited) Here is how to spend your $1000- get a set of good pipes, I would go with FMF Fattys or T%s for where you are riding. Next add a set of pod filters if you are not riding in the wet stuff, if you are riding in the wet stuff, I would get a Pro Flow adapter for the airbox and do away with the lid. Get on Ebay and buy a timing plate from Chariot Performance and set your timing to +4. Get a coolhead from Noss Machine with some 21 or 22cc domes. This should be about $800 so you have $200 left. You will need to jet the hting of course but that is just a few bucks for some jets, don't buy a high dollar jet kit, they are a waste of money. Then you can buy reeds if you really want to but your money would be better spent getting your suspension setup. I would recomend getting your crank welded before it lets go and damages your motor, but if you are getting the second motor together quickly you could just weld that crank. You also will want some stiffer springs for the clutch assuming it is in good shape, you might want to do a shift star mod so it will shift better, and possibly a pancake bearing for the clutch so you don't weld the ball to the clutch pushrod, although if you use a good oil in the tranny it probably won't be a problem. By good oil I mean something like Klotz Flex Drive 30 ( part number KL506). Don't use ATF as those guys are the ones welding a ball if they don't have a pancake bearing. Kepp your Banshee well maintained with quality parts and supplies and you will be rewarded with a reliable bike, if you halfass things it will be a POS that is always breaking down and being towed back. Edited July 15, 2011 by bansheesandrider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasi S. Posted July 16, 2011 Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 Welcome to the BHQ!! This is a great site and all the info you will need is here. First thing I would like to ask from you. How do you feel sitting on your Banshee? ...are those handle bars good for you? It makes miracles to adjust them. You may need to buy a different kind, but after that it feels better. What is the condition of your tires, sprockets and chain? It makes no sense to make any power mod´s if your chain is ratling and your tires won´t hook. How about your shocks? Do they need service? The Jumpy-Pumpy Banshee with alot of power is.... just something. Do you have Nerf-Bars? I think you should have a set to be safe. I think you are looking a good mid-range power like you said above. If I were you with 1000 dollars. I would first maintain my bike to be ready for better power and adjust my "sitting position" to feel good. You can find a used set of good pipes from a 4 sale section. Timing plate is cheap and good mod. Better air-filter and TORS delete-kit. Maybe a set of Boyesen Pro dual stage reeds to replace your stock ones. You will need a selection of main-jets and a set of bigger pilots. Also with 13,14 and 15 front sprockets and 40,41 rears you can adjust your gearing for allmost everything. Post a pic of your Banshee if you can... -Pasi S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jgspahn Posted July 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 Welcome to the BHQ!! This is a great site and all the info you will need is here. First thing I would like to ask from you. How do you feel sitting on your Banshee? ...are those handle bars good for you? It makes miracles to adjust them. You may need to buy a different kind, but after that it feels better. What is the condition of your tires, sprockets and chain? It makes no sense to make any power mod´s if your chain is ratling and your tires won´t hook. How about your shocks? Do they need service? The Jumpy-Pumpy Banshee with alot of power is.... just something. Do you have Nerf-Bars? I think you should have a set to be safe. I think you are looking a good mid-range power like you said above. If I were you with 1000 dollars. I would first maintain my bike to be ready for better power and adjust my "sitting position" to feel good. You can find a used set of good pipes from a 4 sale section. Timing plate is cheap and good mod. Better air-filter and TORS delete-kit. Maybe a set of Boyesen Pro dual stage reeds to replace your stock ones. You will need a selection of main-jets and a set of bigger pilots. Also with 13,14 and 15 front sprockets and 40,41 rears you can adjust your gearing for allmost everything. Post a pic of your Banshee if you can... -Pasi S. http://bansheehq.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=145056&st=0&p=1250657&fromsearch=1entry1250657 Here are some pics from when I picked it up. By the ways It has Vforce reeds on it.. dont know which kind yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jgspahn Posted July 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 Ok guys, upon further inspection of the box of parts that used to be the motor on the bike I found these. I am assuming these are Vforce reeds..V3 or something? How do I tell if these are any good, or need to be replaced? Do they wear out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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