mike0chek Posted July 1, 2011 Report Share Posted July 1, 2011 hey guys just tryin to get my banshee headlights to work. ive tested the bulbs and they seem to be working normally, also tested the wires to the bulbs and they are getting power, when i switch from high to low the voltage changes as i believe it should? the ignition has been removed from this bike and the bike starts and runs great, is there a trick to getting the lights to work with no ignition?? any help is very useful right now lol thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike0chek Posted July 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2011 oh and it is a 2001 banshee so it has the old electrical system Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryv4 Posted July 1, 2011 Report Share Posted July 1, 2011 oh and it is a 2001 banshee so it has the old electrical system figure out wha wirse go to ur ignition to turn them on and just hard wire them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike0chek Posted July 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2011 well from wut i can see that has been done already i can see where they sliced them together Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vifferman Posted July 1, 2011 Report Share Posted July 1, 2011 When you say the ignition system what do you mean? Do your headlights work at all? Only on High? How did you test the bulbs? Where did you test the power going to the bulbs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike0chek Posted July 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 When you say the ignition system what do you mean? Do your headlights work at all? Only on High? How did you test the bulbs? Where did you test the power going to the bulbs? the key has been removed and hard wired together, i took the wires apart and the bike would not start so i know thats what they did. The headlights do not work at all high or low, not even a flicker. we tested the bulbs with two different meters and got the same readings for both, i even grabbed one of my brothers bulbs from his 06 shee that works on his and still no lights. and last we to a reading with the bike running right where the bulbs make there contact and had good numbers, the numbers changed when switched from high to low so the switch seems fine. my friends seem to think that something isnt working right because the key switch is gone but i dont know wut to try next Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike0chek Posted July 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 **update** checked the stators resistance and got 2.7...... so that seems normal according to the book.... anyone wanna chime in here lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vifferman Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 (edited) The only thing left that would cause your lights not to work would be a bad ground from the headlights to the old key switch. You checked for power where the bulbs plugged in but did you check the ground there too? You might have to open up more of the wiring harness and see if anything else has been done to it. Edited July 4, 2011 by vifferman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bansheesandrider Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 The only thing left that would cause your lights not to work would be a bad ground from the headlights to the old key switch. You checked for power where the bulbs plugged in but did you check the ground there too? You might have to open up more of the wiring harness and see if anything else has been done to it. Yes, the headlights need a ground, but it is not supposed to be connected to the keyy switch. The black wire at the lights should connect to the black wire in the bike harness. At this point, I would get a Banshee wiring diagram for your year and trace EVERY wire in your harness. Just to save some questions- the wires that went to the key switch need to be connected, they should be red/black and black. The black/white wire coming from the CDI box goes 2 places- the stop switch on the left handlebar where it should connect to ground when you shut the bike off, and the other place it goes is it ties into the TORS system which can be removed if you want. Make sure the TORS is unhooked by unplugging the little black box under the left side of the fuel tank next to the coil, it may be gone already. I would also do away with the park brake rev limiter by removing the green/yellow wire in the BIKE harness at the CDI plug- take it out of the CDI plug on the bike side, that way the wire coming out of the CDI box will be protected from shorting to ground which will engage the rev limiter. Make sure that you don't have any bare wires that can short to ground or broken wires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike0chek Posted July 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 Yes, the headlights need a ground, but it is not supposed to be connected to the keyy switch. The black wire at the lights should connect to the black wire in the bike harness. At this point, I would get a Banshee wiring diagram for your year and trace EVERY wire in your harness. Just to save some questions- the wires that went to the key switch need to be connected, they should be red/black and black. The black/white wire coming from the CDI box goes 2 places- the stop switch on the left handlebar where it should connect to ground when you shut the bike off, and the other place it goes is it ties into the TORS system which can be removed if you want. Make sure the TORS is unhooked by unplugging the little black box under the left side of the fuel tank next to the coil, it may be gone already. I would also do away with the park brake rev limiter by removing the green/yellow wire in the BIKE harness at the CDI plug- take it out of the CDI plug on the bike side, that way the wire coming out of the CDI box will be protected from shorting to ground which will engage the rev limiter. Make sure that you don't have any bare wires that can short to ground or broken wires. ill have to look at that ground for the lights cuz i think its going into the key switch, so are u saying it should be grounded to the frame?? not sure if the TORS is hooked up or not, and the parking brake has been cut off and just hanging there (green/yellow wire) could that short the system? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bansheesandrider Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 ill have to look at that ground for the lights cuz i think its going into the key switch, so are u saying it should be grounded to the frame?? not sure if the TORS is hooked up or not, and the parking brake has been cut off and just hanging there (green/yellow wire) could that short the system? The black wire(ground) from the lights should be connected to the black wire in the bike harness which ultimately does hook to the frame at a couple of points. All you have to do to see if the ZTORS is hooked up is look under the left side of the fuel tank next to the coil- if there is a little black box there that has 3 wires plugged into it. Unplug the connector and that will disconnect the TORS system. As for the green/yellow wire, it should not affect the headlights, but if the wire shorts to ground it will activate the rev limiter and the bike will run like crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike0chek Posted July 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 (edited) The black wire(ground) from the lights should be connected to the black wire in the bike harness which ultimately does hook to the frame at a couple of points. All you have to do to see if the ZTORS is hooked up is look under the left side of the fuel tank next to the coil- if there is a little black box there that has 3 wires plugged into it. Unplug the connector and that will disconnect the TORS system. As for the green/yellow wire, it should not affect the headlights, but if the wire shorts to ground it will activate the rev limiter and the bike will run like crap. ok sweet, ya i dont recall seeing a ground go to the frame so that must be it, hopefully ill have time after work to check it out, the wiring is quite a mess on my shee lol the whole thing should be redone Edited July 5, 2011 by mike0chek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike0chek Posted July 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 so i found the frame ground under my seat and its the only one on the bike. i cleaned it up with some sand paper and still no lights Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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