dtr7720 Posted March 27, 2011 Report Share Posted March 27, 2011 ok, so, i just got a brand new motor in my banshee, and it started right up....welll....after about 20-30 kicks , and i broke it according to how i found on here, now it still takes just as many kicks to start it, unless im lucky itl start about after 10 kicks....so any ideas on why its si hard to start? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggzy Posted March 28, 2011 Report Share Posted March 28, 2011 Need more info; What mods have you got. Though you probably need bigger pilot jets and other jetting adjustments Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jereme6655 Posted March 28, 2011 Report Share Posted March 28, 2011 one of the most common problems is jetting issues. have you modified the motor with any new parts or new port jobs? That will affect jetting and could cause a hard start if you don't replace the jets with larger ones. The other common problem is the choke tube. The tube is a little black rubber tube that goes between the carbs and is what is used to engage the choke on the right side carb... if its missing you MIGHT be able to get it to start and run but it's gonna be a while before it starts.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtr7720 Posted March 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2011 (edited) it has toomey* pipes with stock silencers? why i dont know, boyesen 2 stage reeds, all vitos internals, and the carb is jetted to 250 main and im not sure which pilot is in it Edited March 28, 2011 by dtr7720 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jereme6655 Posted March 29, 2011 Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 well.....its either your vitos internals (some have had good luck...but alot have had bad luck) or it could be too small of a pilot jet in your carbs.... pull your carbs apart and look and make sure the correct slides are in the correct carbs......and that the right bowls are on the right carbs. AND check to see what size your pilot is......most aftermarket pipes like to have (some need to have) extra fuel way down low so you have to jump your pilots to a 27.5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bansheesandrider Posted March 29, 2011 Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 it has toomey* pipes with stock silencers? why i dont know, boyesen 2 stage reeds, all vitos internals, and the carb is jetted to 250 main and im not sure which pilot is in it Which Toomeys,T3,T4,T5,T6? Usually Toomeys require a mainjet in the 280-320 area and possibly a 27.5 pilot,depending on your mods. Make sure the carbs are clean, the bowls are on the correct carb, the slides are in the correct carb,and the choke tube is in place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hood215 Posted March 29, 2011 Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 I had that problem check ya reeds make sure they not broke and check all your intake boots!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtr7720 Posted March 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 everything is correct, il try messing with different jets, and its the t5 pipes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggzy Posted March 29, 2011 Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 everything is correct, il try messing with different jets, and its the t5 pipes Unless your altitude is high, you're definitely gonna need 27.5 pilots. If you're altitude is under 1500ft, we have pretty similar set ups so you might want to start with that (in my sig) and do a few plug chops to dial it in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtr7720 Posted March 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 how do i tell which pilot jets are in it? wil it say on them like it does the main jet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtr7720 Posted March 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 and also, how do i get more....im not sure how to put it, when i kick my banshee it only turns over once, shouldnt it be turning over more than that? if so, how can i make it do it? the nerf bars i have on it restrict it from kicking all the way i think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggzy Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 and also, how do i get more....im not sure how to put it, when i kick my banshee it only turns over once, shouldnt it be turning over more than that? if so, how can i make it do it? the nerf bars i have on it restrict it from kicking all the way i think Yeah, the pilots will be printed on the side with the size. You might want to get yourself a Clymer's Manual - it'll be the best $30 you'll ever spend and it's a good place to keep your notes on whatever mods you decide to do As for the throw on the kick starter, you can take it off at the splined shaft and rotate it a notch forward. You'll get a little more that way but the throw on the Banshee is short. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtr7720 Posted March 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 Yeah, the pilots will be printed on the side with the size. You might want to get yourself a Clymer's Manual - it'll be the best $30 you'll ever spend and it's a good place to keep your notes on whatever mods you decide to do As for the throw on the kick starter, you can take it off at the splined shaft and rotate it a notch forward. You'll get a little more that way but the throw on the Banshee is short. alright thanks man, il take the carbs apart tomarrow after school, but i cant like....cut the part of the nerf bar that mounts it to the frame? to give it a little more throw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggzy Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 alright thanks man, il take the carbs apart tomarrow after school, but i cant like....cut the part of the nerf bar that mounts it to the frame? to give it a little more throw I can't comment on your nerfs since I don't know what they look like. But if the kick start pedal is hitting them when you try to start her up, then something needs to be done. Adjust the pedal as far forward as you can first (there will be a limit to how far forward it'll go) and see if it still hits the nerf bar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtr7720 Posted March 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 (edited) I can't comment on your nerfs since I don't know what they look like. But if the kick start pedal is hitting them when you try to start her up, then something needs to be done. Adjust the pedal as far forward as you can first (there will be a limit to how far forward it'll go) and see if it still hits the nerf bar. already did, and il post a pic of what im talking about http://s1184.photobucket.com/albums/z333/dtr7720/?action=view¤t=1213.jpg Edited March 30, 2011 by dtr7720 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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