4everwantedbanshee Posted March 20, 2011 Report Share Posted March 20, 2011 hey guys, I have a problem with the shee. The other day i took the banshee out for a ride and didnt notice there was no oil in the trans. When i got back to the house I put it in neutral and let off the clutch and a screeching noise come from the trans. At first I thought it was the clutch but then i noticed that it feels like it wants to move in neutral when i let off the clutch. I inspected the clutch and basket all looks fine. I am thinking it is a fork but not sure, you guys got to help me, trying to get this thing ready for the dunes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sstaton1983 Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 sounds like its time to split the cases.you more than likely have scored bearings amongst other things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KlotzBanshee Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 Why would anyone leave their banshee with no fluid in the trans? Not to mention drive it that way...Just curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4everwantedbanshee Posted March 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 i didnt drain the fluid. i think it leaked out but not sure. stupid of me because i didnt check the fluids before a stroll around the block . it doesnt make noise in any of the gears just in neutral when the clutch is engaged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gotta_goatsfast Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 Bearings need lubrication to keep friction to a minimum and heat down. Without it, you probably toasted your bearings and bushings. This would explain the noise and the lurching forward (bearing does not spin freely anymore). If it was a shift fork trying to engage the gear, you would hear the cogs grinding and banging trying to engage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4everwantedbanshee Posted March 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 Bearings need lubrication to keep friction to a minimum and heat down. Without it, you probably toasted your bearings and bushings. This would explain the noise and the lurching forward (bearing does not spin freely anymore). If it was a shift fork trying to engage the gear, you would hear the cogs grinding and banging trying to engage. thanks...tearing into it tomorrow...does anyone sell a rebuild kit with all the gaskets and bushings and seals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleeper06 Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 Dont split them yet worse case you have to,If your tranny gears were shot it would make noise just pushing it around neverthe less starting it,my guess is your clutch dried out from no fluid and thats why you have the lunge,take your fibers out,inspect them,if they look good give them a good soak in ATF and put her back together,it could be a clutch issue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUILDER Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 I have saw this happen before on a bike a friend of mine bought and it scared one of the trans shaft bad enough it didnt want to roll free so when it was in netural it still wants to move. Just so you know you dont need to tear the whole motor apart you can turn it upside down and pull the bottom half of the case off and pull the tranny out that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4everwantedbanshee Posted March 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2011 (edited) thanks guys..pushing it around it does make noise. i thought it was the clutch at first i did soak them and inspect them but still the same. i started today and almost have it completly apart but, i need a flywheel puller. i took the whole motor apart cause i had a suspicion of coolant leaking into the cylinder. sure enough when i took off the head the gasket showed signs. i still dont know were i am going to buy the bearings for the transmission, but while i am in the engine i am going to get the crank trued and welded and also replacing all the oil seals and bearings, also doing the regular mods to the shift star and drum. Edited March 23, 2011 by 4everwantedbanshee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gotta_goatsfast Posted March 23, 2011 Report Share Posted March 23, 2011 farmandsandtoys.com Give Jeff Wendorff a call. He'll get you all the parts you need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
okbeast Posted March 23, 2011 Report Share Posted March 23, 2011 Yeah all the sponsors should be able to get you all the bearings and seals you need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jereme6655 Posted March 23, 2011 Report Share Posted March 23, 2011 Jeff at FAST (farmandsandtoy.com) can also do your weld/true of your crank. he'll have the seal kits the gasket kits the tranny parts.....and he's a great guy to deal with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4everwantedbanshee Posted March 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2011 thanks guys , now the waiting game for the parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleeper06 Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 my vote is 5th n 6th gear pinion on the front shaft,look 4b luing or burnt look an spin gears by hand you can feel /hear if its wiped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4everwantedbanshee Posted March 31, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 i finally tore into the banshee and split the cases. it found that the 5th pinion gear on the main shaft had burnt spots (burnt oil) in between the shaft and the gear, and it didnt let the pinion turn freely...was thinking of replacing the shaft and gear as a whole but was wondering of just using some emery cloth to polish the shaft and the gear to see if it would work. what does you guys think. it doesnt look that bad but just need some insite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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