06specialedition Posted December 20, 2010 Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 Sup guys, I need some opinions on what size of swing-arm to buy. I ride 100% dunes and never jump my shee. I dune alot and hillshot against 450's and other shee's on occasion. Right now I'm pushing approximately 65HP. I don't want a +2. So it's at least between a +4 or +6.....What do you guys think? Also what kind of gearing do you guys run with a longer swinger? I know pretty much nothing about banshee suspension...so any help is great. Here are most of my current mods: Stock 350 with Aggressive Dune Port & Case Matched Porting Done By Wildcard Racing. Chrome Cpi Inframes, V-Force 3's, Duel Pingle Valve, +5 Timing, Welded Crank, Wildcard Noss Cool Head W/19cc Domes, K&N Filters W/ No Air Box, Tors Remove Kit, Skat Trak Paddles, Black Pro Taper Bars, Cascade Polished Billet Thumb Throttle, Cascade Stainless Side Case Bolts(both sides), Billet Brake Block Off, Custom Clutch Perch, Oversized Aluminum Boss Radiator, Aluminum Radiator Lines.... Thanks -Zach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandfrk33 Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 +4 will keep it rideable. Are you still running stock sprockets? If so, larger front / smaller rear will give you higher top speed. Opposite will give you a better take off but top out each gear faster. Steel front sprockets are cheap. Buy a 13 and 15 and see which one you like better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraigP Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 +4 will keep it rideable. Are you still running stock sprockets? If so, larger front / smaller rear will give you higher top speed. Opposite will give you a better take off but top out each gear faster. Steel front sprockets are cheap. Buy a 13 and 15 and see which one you like better. Whats wrong with just running stock sprockets? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05stroker Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 I'm runnning close to that hp number and I have the +4. You shouldn't have to change your gearing unless you are unhappy with what you have. I'm running 22x11x8 super light 10 paddles and I am running 14-46 gearing. I like the lower gearing, I can launch really well in second. I only ride in the sand and the tree shots in Oregon can be a little tight for the higher geaing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRed350x Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 (edited) +4 would work good for you. The longer swingarm will reduce your traction, so your paddles will spin more easily. I run a +6 on my black bike and run 14x41 gearing with 21" 9-paddles at KP which has pretty dry fluffy sand. When I go to walden, which has wet hard sand I run 14x44 gearing with the same paddles. Edited December 21, 2010 by BigRed350x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
06specialedition Posted December 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 Yeah right now I'm running stock gearing. I like the longer gears for riding the big dunes out here. I had a 13 on the front but hated how much I had to shift... so maybe even a 15 would be nice Okay cool so a +4 sounds like a good size to get, I will probably get a ladder style. I've been really wanting a set of 33mm carbs, but I'm thinking I want to get some good suspension first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wicked ATV Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 Yeah right now I'm running stock gearing. I like the longer gears for riding the big dunes out here. I had a 13 on the front but hated how much I had to shift... so maybe even a 15 would be nice Okay cool so a +4 sounds like a good size to get, I will probably get a ladder style. I've been really wanting a set of 33mm carbs, but I'm thinking I want to get some good suspension first. My Opinion like all the other members said for the all around recreational rider that like both worlds and not making tons of HP the +4 is my suggested size swing arm for all my customers. Keeps your turning radius around the sand dunes and does nice around the bowls and whoops as well jumps. If your a heavier guy in the say..... 190-200ib + range you might want to consider having the rear shock set up as well or at least have the stiffer spring installed for the length difference or you'll be riding like we call it her L.A. Style . nose in the air and the tail to the ground. Not a very fun ride when you hit a bump. You can also try to just adjust the stock rear spring too along with the shock adjustments and see if you can get away with it with your weight. Like sandfrk33 he's bike is nicely set up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
06specialedition Posted December 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 My Opinion like all the other members said for the all around recreational rider that like both worlds and not making tons of HP the +4 is my suggested size swing arm for all my customers. Keeps your turning radius around the sand dunes and does nice around the bowls and whoops as well jumps. If your a heavier guy in the say..... 190-200ib + range you might want to consider having the rear shock set up as well or at least have the stiffer spring installed for the length difference or you'll be riding like we call it her L.A. Style . nose in the air and the tail to the ground. Not a very fun ride when you hit a bump. You can also try to just adjust the stock rear spring too along with the shock adjustments and see if you can get away with it with your weight. Like sandfrk33 he's bike is nicely set up Okay thats good to know, maybe I will plan on getting my shock redone. I should be right around 180 by spring time. I definitely don't want to be riding around LA style. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badbar88 Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 I went +4 and it's still a great bike for duning. Like Wicked said get your shock rebiult or at least get a heavier spring. I rode with the stock and it SUCKED! MattSCEC has my rear shock right now and I'm sure it will be great come New Years, he's already done a pair of front Elkas for me and I couldn't be happier. Hit him up he's got great pricing and quick turn around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
06specialedition Posted December 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 I went +4 and it's still a great bike for duning. Like Wicked said get your shock rebiult or at least get a heavier spring. I rode with the stock and it SUCKED! MattSCEC has my rear shock right now and I'm sure it will be great come New Years, he's already done a pair of front Elkas for me and I couldn't be happier. Hit him up he's got great pricing and quick turn around Is it just really soft with a stock shock? Yeah Matt will for sure be getting my shock if I decide I need to re do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badbar88 Posted December 22, 2010 Report Share Posted December 22, 2010 I'm around 220lbs. and I was bottoming out over everything. It was almost squatting to the limit just getting on it. No fat jokes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05stroker Posted December 22, 2010 Report Share Posted December 22, 2010 I didn't even think about the shock. I am also about 220 and I was bottoming the shock with the stock swinger. I bought the $100 heavy duty spring from Cascade when I put the swingarm on. It definetly made a big difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
06specialedition Posted December 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2010 What size chain you guys running on a +4? I like the look of the gold chains... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05stroker Posted December 23, 2010 Report Share Posted December 23, 2010 Im running the gold X-ring chain from cascade. It is 120 links, they said the 120 would fit a +4 and most sprocket combos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badbar88 Posted December 23, 2010 Report Share Posted December 23, 2010 X2.......X-ring gold 120. I left my stock gearing also, seems to be just right for me. Don't forget to get a new brake line!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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