locogato11283 Posted November 17, 2010 Report Share Posted November 17, 2010 Hate tell tell ya Tyler, but if Vito's sells junk, everyone does.... They're all made in Taiwan with different people badging their names on them. Agreed. I've have 3 Crankworks blow up on me now. They just didn't do it as quick as the Vito's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stroking Posted November 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2010 Agreed. I've have 3 Crankworks blow up on me now. They just didn't do it as quick as the Vito's. were they also 10mil cranks ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted November 17, 2010 Report Share Posted November 17, 2010 That's too bad... I bought my crankworks crank used off ebay, put a TZ on it and ran it for three seasons, thousands of passes...nadda. No issues. I almost put another TZ on it and ran it again but I felt it deserved to retire with what I put it through..... I've seen more billet cranks break than forged around here, and we have a lot of 10 mils. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banshee332 Posted November 17, 2010 Report Share Posted November 17, 2010 That's too bad... I bought my crankworks crank used off ebay, put a TZ on it and ran it for three seasons, thousands of passes...nadda. No issues. I almost put another TZ on it and ran it again but I felt it deserved to retire with what I put it through..... I've seen more billet cranks break than forged around here, and we have a lot of 10 mils. I hope this dont bite me in the ass, but I have a twister billet 10 mill crank that I have had for well over 6 years never been rebuilt. welds are in great shape and everything is still tight. I have it checked every year. Probably put around 300 or so 500ft pass's on it a year and some Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stroking Posted November 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2010 here you go.....i didnt remove it yet but you can see whats going on here.......this is the 4TH time this year a vito 10mil has done this 3 times in a different motor and once in this one! i was told the flywheel can cause this as well as over reving i guess vito's 10mil's are really no good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted November 17, 2010 Report Share Posted November 17, 2010 Stroking, when you put another crank in your bike and don't change anything else, I'd give that statement some weight... I have one, no issues like this. Although to be fair, I didn't ride this year very much. I hope that changes next year..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locogato11283 Posted November 17, 2010 Report Share Posted November 17, 2010 were they also 10mil cranks ? Two 10mm forged cranks and one 18mm billet crank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted November 17, 2010 Report Share Posted November 17, 2010 Stroker, when you pull these out...take a picture of the side of both webs. I want to see where it's welded, please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locogato11283 Posted November 17, 2010 Report Share Posted November 17, 2010 You know, I don't really wanna hear any bullshit about have these cranks fucking welded. Vito's claims they are trued and welded from them. I don't really think that I should have to pay $700+ for a crank just to turn around and have someone else weld on it. That's fucking BS. You can get the same forged crank from Crankworks for about the same money and I'm sure it comes fully welded or whatever. So what kind of welding is done on Vito's that is apparently not good enough? http://www.vitosperformance.com/atv_parts/product.php?productid=11240&cat=200&page=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted November 17, 2010 Report Share Posted November 17, 2010 The three I've seen at my bro's house were within .002. They were true. They were also welded sufficiently... However, I run my shit hard and I replaced the stock bearing with a TZ...so welding it all the way around was no big deal. Stroker has had all these cranks fail...by separating. In my opinion the factory welds on them are sufficient...and also in my opinion there is something else wrong with the motor and/or it's state of tune if it keeps happening. Once on the same crank, maybe. More than that and on other cranks in other motors...I'm doubtful/skeptical at best. The other cranks, in motors other than mine, are still running, running strong and trouble free. One in a twister the other in a K&T ported 10 mil cub. Tyler, if he puts a crankworks crank in there and the same thing happens, you gonna come back here and say Vitos aren't junk? (I already know the answer to that question...because you had them go bad on you...you're not) My point...is the problem lies somewhere else. Stroker, do you have an old or lightened flywheel by any chance? What kind of bearings? What kind and how old of a clutch basket? (Please don't take any of this personal, I'm just trying to figure out the answer...I also have a Vito's crank as said...and it's fine) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANSHEE HP Posted November 17, 2010 Report Share Posted November 17, 2010 (edited) if the bearing journals on the cases are all whooped out then no crank will ever last more then a minute, take the crank out inspect the cases take pics for us. Edited November 17, 2010 by BANSHEE HP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pabansheematt Posted November 17, 2010 Report Share Posted November 17, 2010 Im wondering if the flywheel is bad. I run Vito's cranks for years with no problems. It just seems funny that the same thing keeps happening. Its gotta be somthing else. When its running does the motor shake or vibrate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locogato11283 Posted November 18, 2010 Report Share Posted November 18, 2010 This obviously isn't an uncommon problem. Seems like several people have no had issues with Vito's. The cases that the Vito's crank went in were the same ones that the Crankworks was in. The two Crankworks I had lasted 2 years a piece. The fucking Vito's lasted a week once and then a couple months the second time. I just had a Crankworks 18mm crank in brand new Matton cases break all to shit. NO fucking time on that motor. I don't trust any crank honestly, but the Vito's seem to have quite a short life span. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRed350x Posted November 18, 2010 Report Share Posted November 18, 2010 You guys need to give twister cranks a try... They are more expensive, but usually in the banshee world you get what you pay for. Louie makes some very nice parts and stands behind them. Give him a try... If you have continual problems with the other ones, what do you have to lose? Just a thought. Here's my 10mil 125mm rod twister crank. Had about 2 years of dune riding and racing on it when I took these pics. Came out of a big block twister on methanol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stroking Posted November 18, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2010 ok lets get down in it!! needs tz bearing,trued and rewelding,maybe bottom case also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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