TeamRealtreeHD Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 (edited) I am wondering if doing a billet gear change on a duneable 1-5 N Down will be worth it? I blew out my second gear over the weekend. Second gear is the bread and butter, gets alot of use. I hillclimb and run it hard. Usually start in it, shift out of it, and then end up back in it. There are some guys around here that ride them harder than me, yet don't have problems with the regular 2nd or 3rd gears. I know a guy running one for 5-6 years and puts a hurtin' on his, and it never gave out yet. Maybe I got unlucky? But how much stronger are the billet 2nd gears than the standard cut 2nd gears in the over ride? Will it justify the load of money it would cost to upgrade to the billet second gear over just replacing the gear I have now with the same one? Wondering if it's worth throwing that kinda money into this gear... or just try to replace it to the way it was, hoping it was just a weak link? We shift them under a load without the clutch from 2nd to 3rd. I never backload it, just need it to shift on the fly on the hills. It worked great until it went. Thanks Edited September 8, 2010 by TeamRealtreeHD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locogato11283 Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 How much power are you making? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamRealtreeHD Posted September 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 I'm not sure right now Tyler... it's a 421 cub, 115 longrod 4mil. CPI's jetted very damn close with 35mm PWK's on 50/50 pump/race. 23cc domes 165 PSI. Will be fully drag ported in the spring. I'd say 100 give or take? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locogato11283 Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 I'd say you're probably more around 90HP. That's not really enough power to warrant billet second gear. I ran my 10mm Cub for 4 years with a stock 2nd gear doing hard 2nd gear launches over and over and shifting with an override and never had any issues. I'd say that you just had a shitty second gear. Now, if it's going to make you feel a lot better, by all means spend the $300 or so and go billet. I run billet 2nd in my 18mm DM now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamRealtreeHD Posted September 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 That's the opinion I am looking for. Basically it won't warrant it because chances are, I had a shitty gear from the start, or had something happen that usually doesn't under the conditions I used it in. We basically ride them like you do... launch hard in one gear, and either ride that gear out or shift on the fly up the hill into 3rd, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locogato11283 Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 Yea, I just think you had a bad gear. I broke 5th gear earlier this year. Just a freak thing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKheathen Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 Yea, I just think you had a bad gear. I broke 5th gear earlier this year. Just a freak thing... because you are a freak? or because you freak danced that thing up and down the hill a few times this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locogato11283 Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 because you are a freak? or because you freak danced that thing up and down the hill a few times this year? I only have a 2-4 override. It was just an accident I guess. I didn't crash or anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamRealtreeHD Posted September 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 I think I'll just go with the regular gear then. I want it done right though, so it's getting sent out. Who does the best work on these? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locogato11283 Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 Is your tranny already cut? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazycanuck Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 Sorry to Jack your thread guys. But i just got back from riding my 421 with 1-5 override. Out of the blue its shifting HARD under load going IN and OUT of second gear. shifts like butter in 3,4,5..... did i damage second gear??? or bend a shift fork??.... again sorry to butt in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickedcarbine Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 Forget the billit for now, try sending your new gear set to 300 Below for some cryo treatment. I believe WCR has great rates on cryo treatment as well. Just not sure if they are doing it them selves or sending it out. Either way, pretty good investment. Also talked to John Stallworth today actually, and he swears by micro polishing. Just a thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locogato11283 Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 Sorry to Jack you thread guys. But i just got back from riding my 421 with 1-5 override. Out of the blue its shifting HARD under load going IN and OUT of second gear. shifts like butter in 3,4,5..... did i damage second gear??? or bend a shift fork??.... again sorry to butt in. Could be either. Seems like since it shifts easily in the rest of the gears that it may just be 2nd though. I'd probably pull it apart. Forget the billit for now, try sending your new gear set to 300 Below for some cryo treatment. I believe WCR has great rates on cryo treatment as well. Just not sure if they are doing it them selves or sending it out. Either way, pretty good investment. Also talked to John Stallworth today actually, and he swears by micro polishing. Just a thought. Any idea on the rates for that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickedcarbine Posted September 10, 2010 Report Share Posted September 10, 2010 Not off hand. I have a print out that he sent me about a year ago for shifter cart and motorcycle pricing, but I need to dig it up. I had my entire motor done for $350.00. They tried to up the price after realizing how many parts were actually in a banshee motor compared to the lil 250cc motors they usually run for the cart guys though. Should be around 150 for all the tranny parts though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickedcarbine Posted September 10, 2010 Report Share Posted September 10, 2010 Just out of curiosity I looked at WCR. Their rates are pretty bad ass! http://www.w-c-r.com/PRICING.htm Not many people really know what it really is but trust me the cryo treatment is hands down the best investment in any banshee with big power. Loco, a bike like yours would definitely benifit from athe cryo process. Take a peek in the automotive racing community. There are alot of guys with parts that just don't hold up, and don't have any aftermarket options yet. But once the parts are cryoed no more worries. Check out 300below.com as well. The applications are endless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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