SLORYDER Posted August 4, 2010 Report Share Posted August 4, 2010 Ok I am moving this discussion over to the repairs section because the other one was full of drama. The debate is over whether or not the a cool head is a good buy for the average joe. My theory is that not everyone needs a cool head. That you can mill the stock head or have it rechambered and have close to or right at the same hp as a cool head. The downside of the stock head is that it does not cool as well as a cool head, however I believe the gains in cooling are relatively small and will, in reality not help your engine to have a substantially longer life. In this dyno you can see there is about an 11 hp difference between the green line and the one below it. The one below it is a Banshee with FMF fatties & K&N filters The green line is FMF Fatties, K&N filters, v force 3 reeds, +4 timing key, Vitos Superstock pistons and a cool head with pump gas domes. Now it is well known that the vitos superstock pistons will give you 5-6 hp. So that leaves 5 to 6 hp gain from the cool head, timing and reeds. I'm willing to bet that the cool heads gain was no more than 4 horsepower, which is perhaps one more than a stock milled head, if that. http://bansheehq.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=130851 You've also got to figure in the ability to change domes for relatively cheap. A used set of domes only cost around 50 bucks shipped. So you can have a pump gas setup and a race fuel setup, around 4 and 8 horsepower respectively (assuming 8 on the race fuel) My alternative method is to cut the stock head .030", for around a 6hp gain, and requiring he use of a blend of race fuel and premium unleaded. If pump gas would be desired, a head gasket .010" thicker would give the extra head volume to allow pump gas to be run. This .020" milling is what is generally what is used to run premium unleaded. I have heard of several people going .020" and .030" with no problems. Some say there may be issues with going .030", and this is the right place to discuss this. Another option is to send your stock head off to be rechambered, which will give you the same gains as the cool head, for around 85 dollars. If I were going with a race fuel setup, or any kind of cub or 4mill build, this is what i'd recommend hands down. I would like to keep this discussion civil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
So Cal Suspension Posted August 4, 2010 Report Share Posted August 4, 2010 Are you fucking kidding me right now? You've got to be, hands down, the biggest fuck tard I have ever seen in my life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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madjimmax Posted August 4, 2010 Report Share Posted August 4, 2010 If you dont want drama quit trying to create it damn dude get a life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SLORYDER Posted August 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2010 (edited) If you dont want drama quit trying to create it damn dude get a life No, it appears your friend mattsec likes to create drama. I am trying to have a discussion here and learn something new, instead of relying on what others tell me. I don't know everything there is about banshees, but i'd like to learn as much as possible. Edited August 4, 2010 by SLORYDER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamRealtreeHD Posted August 4, 2010 Report Share Posted August 4, 2010 You need to be banned... seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SLORYDER Posted August 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2010 Because I am trying to spread knowledge. Frickin communist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madjimmax Posted August 4, 2010 Report Share Posted August 4, 2010 You cant learn shit if you keep telling everyone how wrong they are. I sounds to me like your just trying your best to convince everyone. You should just let it go, you believe what you believe and thats cool. But the majority dont agree which should be cool but obviously its not. You have dudes that have very respected opinions and you just keep saying I disagree. Thats no way to learn a damn thing IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
So Cal Suspension Posted August 4, 2010 Report Share Posted August 4, 2010 You must be the author of this book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKheathen Posted August 4, 2010 Report Share Posted August 4, 2010 wtf? there's no .030" pump.....fail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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