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Thrashing my Shee for 8 years on Klotz and just now had to tear down the topend (hole in rad hose and ran her out of water) So I'm doing a mild build with new Wisecos, decent home port job and some 30mm OKO's. An honest 65HP motor when it's done. Any way, I was looking at the crank (still assembled) and I'm getting .019" and .023" on the rod sids and .065" and .070" small end arc. What do you guys think of these numbers? Skirts didn't break, didn't even seize just lost compression. Should I look for a tighter stock crank or a stock hot rod? Can't quite swing a 4mm at this time or I'd do it. Do these things give any warning (knocking) when they are ready to go?

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Thrashing my Shee for 8 years on Klotz and just now had to tear down the topend (hole in rad hose and ran her out of water) So I'm doing a mild build with new Wisecos, decent home port job and some 30mm OKO's. An honest 65HP motor when it's done. Any way, I was looking at the crank (still assembled) and I'm getting .019" and .023" on the rod sids and .065" and .070" small end arc. What do you guys think of these numbers? Skirts didn't break, didn't even seize just lost compression. Should I look for a tighter stock crank or a stock hot rod? Can't quite swing a 4mm at this time or I'd do it. Do these things give any warning (knocking) when they are ready to go?

 

on a new crank the the connecting rod limits are between 0.25-0.75 doesnt say what the out of parameters are

 

and the small end play is 2.0mm or 0.08in service limit

 

so it seems to me you need to buck up and pay some money and get a 4mil crank. talk to alf or wildcard they should beable to hook you up on a nice price.

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From what I read in my Yamaha manual, you are outside the specs for a new unit but you are still within the factory service limits, meaning you can run the crank for awhile longer. But my expierence has been that a crank can let go at any time with no warning, based on that I would send the crank to Twister. They will rebuild it with new rods, thrust washers and all bearings and then true and weld it for around $350-$375. You will then have a good reliable crank that won't let you down.

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Yea, the crank is within Yamaha service limits and looks fine but has a bunch of hours on it. That looks high for a rebuild. What dose a stock hot rod go for?

You can usually buy a new crank for the price of rebuilding one. The cost of a 4mm crank isn't much more than a stock stroke, however, there is more to it like porting, bigger carbs do to increased flow (30s maybe ok). To pull 65hp from a stock stroke everything is gonna have to be matched, all components complimenting each other.

 

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I can't find a better deal on a good crank that is trued and welded. Yes I can find new cranks that are less money, but they are not trued and welded so you have to have that done and around here that is $75-$100. Plus Twister is local to me and I don't have to pay shipping. I would rather have my crank rebuilt than buy some POS crank from China or Korea.

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I checked out Twister crank's website. Wow they got some nice stuff but DAMN, I pay less for a big block chevy stroker crank. HaHa. Is the Hot Rod stuff any good? Anyone got a low hour stocker?

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I checked out Twister crank's website. Wow they got some nice stuff but DAMN, I pay less for a big block chevy stroker crank. HaHa. Is the Hot Rod stuff any good? Anyone got a low hour stocker?

 

 

ha I got a low hour Hot Rods, but has bent rods haha...I have a stocker with 5 hours on it and I just up and bought new wiseco engine kit.......broken cranks are like boat anchors it seems

 

time to work a few more hours for the 4 mil.....

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well, if you can't swing the 4mill, but want to in the future, then best thing is to check the play in the bearings, (rods and centers) and have yours trued/welded, then throw some new outters on there, which are dirt cheap when you buy from a manufacturer, not banshee vendor. vxb should be like $7 each. that thing should last untill you are ready for 4mill, and then some. they generally don't give you any warning before letting go, they just get sloppy, or separate, which you can get lucky and catch, but flaking can be felt by hand, wear play can be measured, and oil starvation can happen anytime, no matter the hours, or crank. trued/welded stock cranks are verry durable, and the stock center seal is the best i've seen, so far.

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Thanks Akheathen. What is the deal with the 4mm? I know I need a 4mm base plate but what does that do to my porting? As you know I raised my exhaust and transfers this weekend (couple pictures on that "boost port height" post) Will I now need to lower the port floors 4mm if I go with that setup?

Thanks

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Thanks Akheathen. What is the deal with the 4mm? I know I need a 4mm base plate but what does that do to my porting? As you know I raised my exhaust and transfers this weekend (couple pictures on that "boost port height" post) Will I now need to lower the port floors 4mm if I go with that setup?

Thanks

well, if you use the spacer plate, then it will be allot of topend, and real short blowdown. best thing to do is get some cut domes, and bring the exhaust back up to an appropriate time for decent blowdown, and that will set your miinimum rpm range on the porting. allot of times, you are stuck with near drag when you stroke an already ported motor, since there is too much cut from the transfers. either way, you will need to lower the port floors for better flow, since the piston will be dropping either 2, or 4mill further, creating a ridge

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