stockbeast Posted June 9, 2010 Report Share Posted June 9, 2010 looking for tips on building a bone stock looking drag racer without adding any cubes to it cuz I just rebuilt it with vitos piston kit here is what I have so far 99 banshee stock pipes +6 timing plate vitos power pistons milled stock head .035 13 tooth sprocket cut knarlys dyna hot coil were the vito pistons better than porting for the stock pipes??? what else can I do and keep it looking bone stock It wouldnt run with the piped 450s before I tore it down in the 300ft drags but it was all stock thanks Dillon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted June 9, 2010 Report Share Posted June 9, 2010 A few things. Are you planning on keeping the stock pipes? If so...the thread ends here.... Otherwise, what is your budget? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4strokekilla1987 Posted June 9, 2010 Report Share Posted June 9, 2010 A few things. Are you planning on keeping the stock pipes? If so...the thread ends here.... Otherwise, what is your budget? he can have it ported for the stock pipes and those things run hard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
06specialedition Posted June 9, 2010 Report Share Posted June 9, 2010 Have WILDCARD do a drag port on it. And get some black CPI inframes....you'll run awesome with pipes and a good port job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stockbeast Posted June 10, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2010 So the stock pipes are total junk?? Or they just dont make any power up in the higher rpms?? Couldnt I just make more power in the low to mid range rpms with mods other than pipes?? Can you get a port done for stock pipes?? I am trying to get more usable power down low because I already have traction problems and all my buddies that I race are all stock like 450s and raptors , so they hook like crazy and I already have the same top end as them now. well not maxed out top end but end of the 300ft topend And I race the stock class at the fair races 300ft loose dirt. So usable power is what I am looking for not peak power. I guess like a woods setup for dragging lol and I want to tell all my four stroke buddies that its all stock cuz they already know better than to race a piped/ported shee. so maybe I could pass off a set of ptr mids as stock but I kinda want to keep the stockers as long as possible?? so what I am looking for is any suggestions for motor or chassis mods to make me faster in the 300ft drags to a stock piped bike. no strokers or big bores cuz i just rebuilt the topend any mods that are hidden ...............kind of a challenge to me.. $1000 budget Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
06specialedition Posted June 10, 2010 Report Share Posted June 10, 2010 Pipes are one of the biggest power gains you can do to a stock motor...If your budget is $1000 and you want a good trail/woods bike I would get some Pro Circuit pipes for sure. Stock pipes run okay, but your not getting nearly what you could out of that motor with stockers. IMO its a MUST to AT LEAST have pipes, cool head, and filters on a banshee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted June 10, 2010 Report Share Posted June 10, 2010 Find used pipes. Get an air filter and timing plate, have someone machine .020 off your stock head and get your cylinders ported. Bolt ons alone will not beat a piped/jetted 450 with a decent rider in 300 feet. If you happen to beat one, you beat the rider or a poorly setup bike....which, happens..and a win is a win. Just not something I'd count on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stockbeast Posted June 10, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2010 Thanks for the responses guys but I dont think you are following what I am trying to do. It has to look bone stock. I know pipes are a must for any good horsepower, I already have the head milled .035, +6 timing plate, vitos pistons, k&n in the box no lid, good tires and lower gearing. It pulls the stock 450s on topend already!! Or if we race on the road I am gone. I am looking for motor and chassis mods for the 300ft drags that will give me better traction and low end. and be undetectable to a non banshee owner. I am just going to try to keep it looking bone stock and see how fast I can get it with a $1000. If that doesnt work then pipes and porting will be the next so when the 4 pokes get me out of the hole I can just blow buy them. but i want to try to beat em at there own game first.......... traction. If its a juicy turd after I spend $1000 then I will throw a set of paul turners on it, those I could probably pass off as stockers. SLEEPER!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted June 10, 2010 Report Share Posted June 10, 2010 Port it. We're trying to tell you you're asking us to give you whipped cream on top of horse shit. You can do what you want...but those stock pipes are holding you back. Port it....but don't be surprised if the increase is only nominal. Engines are an air pump. The more air you get in and get out...and more efficiently you do that, the better it'll run. When you're chocking it down with stock exhaust...there's not a whole lot more point in trying to make it run faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4strokekilla1987 Posted June 10, 2010 Report Share Posted June 10, 2010 Port it. We're trying to tell you you're asking us to give you whipped cream on top of horse shit. You can do what you want...but those stock pipes are holding you back. Port it....but don't be surprised if the increase is only nominal. Engines are an air pump. The more air you get in and get out...and more efficiently you do that, the better it'll run. When you're chocking it down with stock exhaust...there's not a whole lot more point in trying to make it run faster. its like i said before he can have it ported for the stock pipes i have seen them done before with everthing stock and they run hard you just have to have someone that know what they are doing to get it to run right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mia-shee Posted June 10, 2010 Report Share Posted June 10, 2010 Check this out he knows how to make a stock piped banshee do 103 m.p.h. lol! craigslist add Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bode1 Posted June 10, 2010 Report Share Posted June 10, 2010 I think those PT pipes look kinda stockish if you were to get them in black. I think the casual observer may not even notice if they only glanced at them. maybe attach the stock heat guard... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandman81 Posted June 10, 2010 Report Share Posted June 10, 2010 We're trying to tell you you're asking us to give you whipped cream on top of horse shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alf44 Posted June 10, 2010 Report Share Posted June 10, 2010 its like i said before he can have it ported for the stock pipes i have seen them done before with everthing stock and they run hard you just have to have someone that know what they are doing to get it to run right Like stated above. Have it ported for stock pipes. You cant see porting. LOL. Advance the timing to plus 4, shave head, mabey put a diff ignition on it. Dynatech, big gun?? get some old beatup black toomeys, pt's or fmfs or whatever. If you dont want to port it get the Vitos superstock pistons. Great piston for the power gains you will get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STINKYDELUXE Posted June 11, 2010 Report Share Posted June 11, 2010 I would have to say Ported, reeds and Over-ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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