gofast5 Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 Ok guys this is my first time on this site so sorry if I make myself look like a fool lol. To make a long story short I sent my parts to banshee boyz racing for what? Only god knows what in the world I was thinking. I lost all my parts and im starting from scratch, After trading off my dirtbike I got A banshee that needed a little work and im selling it to a friend to rebuild my current motor. Im wanting to go the 4 mill route and have a couple questions, Im leaning towards the 115 rod route because of the better rod angle and was curious if theres any major differences between the 2 other then that (keep in mind this will be a play bike no drag bike). Also I have a cool head so getting stroker domes is no big deal and I have a set of cylinders that someone opened the intakes and transfers pretty extensively on he didn't do any exhaust port work though. My question is will I be able to run these safely or do I need to get these ported? Do the exhaust ports need raised or lowered? Also does anyone know a good place to buy a whole (kit) or individual parts for this build other then flea bay? Any advice is greatly appreciated btw my banshee has t5s, pwk 28s, cfm alum air box, ported reed cages, and will have an adjustable timing key. Thanks in advanced, Gofast5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2002shee Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 The long rod Wiseco 795 series pistons are great and since the rod sits higher up in the piston it makes it stronger. You'll need to have those jugs ported for the 4mil/long rod set up too. Before you do just make sure you are going with stoker domes and not a plate because it will make a difference on the porting. I would spend the $35 on a adjustable timing plate instead of the degree key. Those keys can shear leaving you stranded somewhere. I run +5 degrees on my 4mil and it's good to have some adjustment to play around with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gofast5 Posted June 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2010 Thats what I meant to say adjustable timing plate I've just always called it a timing key. Does it HAVE to be ported for the 4 mill setup? If it does Im not sure wether I can go this route or not I honestly dont have the extra 400 to report it. My intakes and transfers are done up on this cylinder but my exhaust isn't its inspect with a stock exhaust port. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooker82 Posted June 4, 2010 Report Share Posted June 4, 2010 It will run but you will be leaving power on the table by not having the jugs ported for a 4 mill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pr0blumz Posted June 4, 2010 Report Share Posted June 4, 2010 It will run but you will be leaving power on the table by not having the jugs ported for a 4 mill. Yeah and not having it ported for the 4mil kinda defeats the purpose of going with stroker crank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RZBansheeMan Posted June 4, 2010 Report Share Posted June 4, 2010 Not another story about those HOMO BANSHEE BOYZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bode1 Posted June 4, 2010 Report Share Posted June 4, 2010 Sounds like they don't work on stuff, they just rip people off WTF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLORYDER Posted June 4, 2010 Report Share Posted June 4, 2010 Depending on whether or not the transfer ports have been raised you may not be able to use those cylinders. Take a measurement in millimeters how far from the deck the transfer and exhaust port roofs are. It is really easy to port to a 4mill crank. Mostly involves lowering the port floors and raising the exhaust a little. Take those measurements, and pics if you can and pm me or just reply to this post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gofast5 Posted June 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2010 Not another story about those HOMO BANSHEE BOYZ Yup.. What I was thinking??? I honestly DONT KNOW. But my cousins fiance is a cop and im going to give him the tracking numbers ect to prove everything was sent hes going to try and take care of it.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gofast5 Posted June 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2010 Depending on whether or not the transfer ports have been raised you may not be able to use those cylinders. Take a measurement in millimeters how far from the deck the transfer and exhaust port roofs are. It is really easy to port to a 4mill crank. Mostly involves lowering the port floors and raising the exhaust a little. Take those measurements, and pics if you can and pm me or just reply to this post. Alright im having a blond moment where exactly am I measuring and to where? The deck to the transfers, and the deck to the exhaust port roofs? I have an electronic caliper but I don't have any micrometers. I know for a fact theres no exhaust work done on this im almost 100% posotive I can see where he messed with it a little bit where the pipe actually hooks up he just polished it a bit, the intakes and transfers are what he mainly did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toytech Posted June 4, 2010 Report Share Posted June 4, 2010 Yup.. What I was thinking??? I honestly DONT KNOW. But my cousins fiance is a cop and im going to give him the tracking numbers ect to prove everything was sent hes going to try and take care of it.. go get em shut those crooks down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gofast5 Posted June 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2010 go get em shut those crooks down Im gonna try. Im only 15 so this is all out of my pocket. The quad itself the maintnance and half the parts on it are all things I bought myself. Losing a set of cylinders, 2 bottem ends without cranks and some random parts realy put a hurting on my ego. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camatv Posted June 5, 2010 Report Share Posted June 5, 2010 the 4 mill long rod needs the 795 series pistons on smaller bore. the domes will need to be stroker domes ( no biggie call NOSS) you should use a cometic steel former basegasket that is as thin as possible that keeps the transfers as low as you can get usually in the 130-131 degree range. other types of gaskets will rase them up into the 134-136ish range and it may not like that very much. depending on what else was done to the cylinders you would be best to send the cases, crank, head, domes, and cylinders to someone to have it all matched together. case porting and cylinder prep is cutical to have one of these that runs well. i'm not sure how in the heck the spacer plate ones even run with a long rod crank.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gofast5 Posted June 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2010 the 4 mill long rod needs the 795 series pistons on smaller bore. the domes will need to be stroker domes ( no biggie call NOSS) you should use a cometic steel former basegasket that is as thin as possible that keeps the transfers as low as you can get usually in the 130-131 degree range. other types of gaskets will rase them up into the 134-136ish range and it may not like that very much. depending on what else was done to the cylinders you would be best to send the cases, crank, head, domes, and cylinders to someone to have it all matched together. case porting and cylinder prep is cutical to have one of these that runs well. i'm not sure how in the heck the spacer plate ones even run with a long rod crank.. Any idea who to send this too? Im looking to do this on a budget as im 15 and already had to buy new cylinders ect to even get it running in the first place. I need to get the stroker crank itself, 795 pistons, porting to either sets of cylinders I have and boring if its the unported set. I called white knuckle, passion, patriot, flotek, fast, hjr, redline, and k&t and was quoted around the $400 range for porting. White knuckle seemed to be the most pleasing and seemed like a VERY nice guy. Im also going to be putting a billet impellor and adjustable timing plate in this motor. Thanks for all the help guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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