KickStartMyHeart Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 The only problem you may have is shifting under power... I had a problem shifting between 3rd and 4th gears. I would have to let off the power and let the engine wind down a lot before it would shift into 4th. On flat ground, it was a little more forgiving, but on the hill, it was terrible. There is nothing like having all that power and not hitting 4th on the hill. Very frustrating... Some people seem to not have any trouble shifting, but I can tell you from experience, there is nothing better than shifting at full throttle. I gained a bike length or two on the hill when I switched to an override. After riding one for 2 years now, hours and hours of dune riding (even with an override), hundreds of passes up and down the hill in the sand, I would not run a cub without a duneable override... I disagree. I run a 4mill and all I have is a billet offbrand basket. From what I've seen and compared it to the hinson basket, the hinson backplate screws are tiny compared to the offbrand one I have and the plate starts seperating. My offbrand basket has huge screws holding in the back plate and has not seperated a bit. As for tranny I do not run an override tranny will not run one. I dont have anything against them, but a 4mill doesnt need an override. I had my tranny cut and it runs perfect and ive never missed a shift. I cant wait to see the replies from this post lol! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BellicoseBanshee Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 I disagree. I run a 4mill and all I have is a billet offbrand basket. I agree with not needing a Hinson basket, for there are other, cheaper, options. A Magnum basket is a great deal and a good value at ~$150.00. I opted not to even mess around with cushion and back-plate problems and purchased a spring-tension basket. I have seen the carnage the cushions can cause when they grenade... As for tranny I do not run an override tranny will not run one. I dont have anything against them, but a 4mill doesnt need an override. I had my tranny cut and it runs perfect and ive never missed a shift. I suppose need is relevant to a person's point of view. The main reason I went to an override was to solve a shifting problem while racing hills in the dunes. Other than measuring every spacer and clip in the transmission assembly, I could not find any problems anywhere. Everything was adjusted correctly. All the parts were serviceable with low hours on them. It simply would not shift into 4th gear under load and an override solved that problem. There is no doubt an override increases the total performance of the bike. I have only used a stock transmission and a duneable override with my cub. If a cut transmission works, that is certainly another option for the OP. I still would not run a cub without an override. It certainly does not mean it is the only way to go, it is just the best use of the power a cub offers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
okbeast Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 I agree with not needing a Hinson basket, for there are other, cheaper, options. A Magnum basket is a great deal and a good value at ~$150.00. I opted not to even mess around with cushion and back-plate problems and purchased a spring-tension basket. I have seen the carnage the cushions can cause when they grenade... I suppose need is relevant to a person's point of view. The main reason I went to an override was to solve a shifting problem while racing hills in the dunes. Other than measuring every spacer and clip in the transmission assembly, I could not find any problems anywhere. Everything was adjusted correctly. All the parts were serviceable with low hours on them. It simply would not shift into 4th gear under load and an override solved that problem. There is no doubt an override increases the total performance of the bike. I have only used a stock transmission and a duneable override with my cub. If a cut transmission works, that is certainly another option for the OP. I still would not run a cub without an override. It certainly does not mean it is the only way to go, it is just the best use of the power a cub offers... How is that override working for ya while duning? You ever backload it on accident or anything? How do you decelerate the bike to not backload it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KickStartMyHeart Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 Im not dogging on overrides or anything and I think they have their place, but for just rippin around and play duneing an override is not necessary IMO. Always worrying about backloading one and shit like that isnt worth it in my mind. Ive seen em backload before and you got a hell of a mess on your hands once that happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BellicoseBanshee Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 How is that override working for ya while duning? You ever backload it on accident or anything? How do you decelerate the bike to not backload it? I have hundreds of passes on it, and many hours of dune riding. I try not to back-load and downshift on the fly, but sometimes it happens. It seems to be holding up very well. I always use the clutch to coast down hills after a run, and I try to keep forward momentum when duning. I am sure at some point, I will have to replace forks, but for now, it has been very reliable. It is not that bad to split the cases from the bottom when the time comes if the top-end is still serviceable. I pulled my ATC250R (a completely separate addiction) out of mothballs for the last ride we did in May, and next season I plan to use it for duning instead my Banshee (do not want to dune with OOF pipes). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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