GNR101 Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 ok im thinking of getting some paddles its ALL for play what shape paddles do i get i will be uding the paddles to play up dunes and down, dunes power slides etc i dont like the ass end to handle like its on train tracks i like to to slide/ride a little loose am i able to do this with paddles? so pretty much i want knobblies with the push forward of paddles? p.s sorry for the 100090900 th paddle thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bansheesandrider Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 If you want to be able to slide around you need straight paddles like a Hauler. If you want to carve through the corners, then ytou want a "V" paddle like sand stars or sand skate2s. I cant recomend a size or number of paddles without knowing your setup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNR101 Posted February 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 my setup is in my sig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanYE west Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 send a PM to redline over on atvdragracers.com He has a killer deal on some hauler type paddles and you'll be very happy with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrMeyer Posted February 18, 2010 Report Share Posted February 18, 2010 Haulers equal straight line and no ass end slides. If u want to slide, stay with a paddle that is shapped like and an L slanted at a 45deg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donkeypuncher Posted February 18, 2010 Report Share Posted February 18, 2010 Haulers equal straight line and no ass end slides. If u want to slide, stay with a paddle that is shapped like and an L slanted at a 45deg actually the reason v-paddles were created was so they WOULDNT slide when turning. they are actually made to better your handling because you slide less which results in quicker turning becuase you are able to hold speed thrughout ( similar reason why solid ribbed front tires allow the front end to "slide" less when turning). a good all-around dune tire is the trusty old 20x10x10 9-10 paddle hauler (or extreme). plenty of ass end sliding mixed with solid hill climbing ability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrMeyer Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 actually the reason v-paddles were created was so they WOULDNT slide when turning. they are actually made to better your handling because you slide less which results in quicker turning becuase you are able to hold speed thrughout ( similar reason why solid ribbed front tires allow the front end to "slide" less when turning). a good all-around dune tire is the trusty old 20x10x10 9-10 paddle hauler (or extreme). plenty of ass end sliding mixed with solid hill climbing ability. I dont know man. I have one hell of a hard time sliding my bikes ass around with haulers on if your on the throttle. It always pulls me straight and wheelies out. Other then my own ass sliding around on the seat. But having the L at the 45 i have never had a prob of sliding the ass around. But I do have a prob of them hooking up to drag the hill. Seems always like the ass wants to slide left to right with ease. But hey. Haulers are all I run now because of how well they hook up for straight line and always pulling straight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donkeypuncher Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 I dont know man. I have one hell of a hard time sliding my bikes ass around with haulers on if your on the throttle. It always pulls me straight and wheelies out. Other then my own ass sliding around on the seat. But having the L at the 45 i have never had a prob of sliding the ass around. But I do have a prob of them hooking up to drag the hill. Seems always like the ass wants to slide left to right with ease. But hey. Haulers are all I run now because of how well they hook up for straight line and always pulling straight. sounds like you're letting your bike take you for a ride instead of you riding your bike. would it help if i compared it to tires on a street car? think about it like this....... if you take two brand new ford mustangs to a track (drag strip and race track) and put drag slicks on one (aka the haulers) and a high performance street tire (say toyo proxe r888 (aka a v - paddle) on another and test them out, you will find that the stang with the slicks will out perform the street tire in a straight line ( hauler > v-paddle). the opposite will occure at a race track (v-paddle > hauler). the reason the slicks (haulers) get out performed on the race track is because the lack of side to side traction (a v-paddle is supposed to help with this problem in sand) when going thru the turns, unlike the street tire (v-paddle) which is made for handling. does this make any sence to you? haha man its hard to explain this over the internet. lol, maybe i should make a video and post it on bansheetube. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bansheesandrider Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 I dont know man. I have one hell of a hard time sliding my bikes ass around with haulers on if your on the throttle. It always pulls me straight and wheelies out. Other then my own ass sliding around on the seat. But having the L at the 45 i have never had a prob of sliding the ass around. But I do have a prob of them hooking up to drag the hill. Seems always like the ass wants to slide left to right with ease. But hey. Haulers are all I run now because of how well they hook up for straight line and always pulling straight. A straight paddle is like a knife blade, when the direction of force is lengthwise to the bike, which is against the wide surface of the paddle, it is against a broad surface so it hooks up and propels you forward. When the force is sideways, as in turning, there is no surface area in that direction, so they just slide. The angled paddles compromise some of their straight ahead surface to get some sideways surface to corner better. Of course I have a 4 inch swingarm so there is not as much weight on the ass end so it slides better, however that does not change the thoery, just the degree of execution.From the way you are describing it, you are not really sliding the rear end around, by sliding I mean you are turning the bars to the right to turn to the left and vice versa. If you look on Skat Trak's website you will see it lists Haulers for drag racing and hillclimbing, and the V paddle tire are listed for corner turning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrMeyer Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 (edited) If you look on Skat Trak's website you will see it lists Haulers for drag racing and hillclimbing, and the V paddle tire are listed for corner turning. Thats what Im sayn. Haulers = straight And anything else turns easier. Thats why i went with haulers because I was tired of my ass end sliding all over the place and also when riding the side of the sand hills. Put the haulers on and BAMM no more sliding. When I said turning. I should have said like turning the bike around for doing a 180. Like say you dropped something. The bike will just try to push straight. But for dunes riding and turning. Thats easy. So he said he didnt like the ass to handle like its on rails. Which the haulers like to go straight. And if he want some dune sliding, then he needs to go with a tire like the Itp sand stars. Edited February 25, 2010 by GrMeyer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrMeyer Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 = None characteristics of rails in the sand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bansheesandrider Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 (edited) Thats what Im sayn. Haulers = straight And anything else turns easier. Thats why i went with haulers because I was tired of my ass end sliding all over the place and also when riding the side of the sand hills. Put the haulers on and BAMM no more sliding. When I said turning. I should have said like turning the bike around for doing a 180. Like say you dropped something. The bike will just try to push straight. But for dunes riding and turning. Thats easy. So he said he didnt like the ass to handle like its on rails. Which the haulers like to go straight. And if he want some dune sliding, then he needs to go with a tire like the Itp sand stars. I have had both on my bike and with the Haulers you can powerslide, in other words the bars are turned to the right while the bike itself is making a left hand turn. When I had V paddles on it it was bars to the left to make a left hand turn. My wife complained about the V paddles not being able to slide. That is what I meant about the V paddles, the paddle is bent so there is an edge to bite in and keep the bike from sliding. Everybody I ride with says if you are going to ride trails and don't want to slide out on the corners, to run V paddles, and if you want to slide around in the open sand to run Haulers.And you are the only one in this thread that is saying to run V paddles to slide, everybody else is saying to run Haulers if you want to slide. Edited February 25, 2010 by bansheesandrider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrMeyer Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 Where in my words did I say to run a V. I said an L at a 45deg like the sandstars. I have had V paddels as well and agree that V's do not slide one bit. All I said is that the ass will slide easier with paddles like the sandstars over the haulers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donkeypuncher Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 Where in my words did I say to run a V. I said an L at a 45deg like the sandstars. I have had V paddels as well and agree that V's do not slide one bit. All I said is that the ass will slide easier with paddles like the sandstars over the haulers. what you are calling an "L" paddle is more commonly known as a " V " paddle. sandstars are a " V " paddle, as well as any other tire with that 45 degree " L " shape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrMeyer Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 Gecko = V Sandstars = L And the Sandstars will side more more then then V of the Gecko or the Haulers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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