Rb240 Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 Anyone use this shift star any difference just thinking since i have the motor open thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKheathen Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 it's a nice mod for both reliability and shifter ease of movement. they have the longer pegs to prevent the infamous problem of the claw falling off the pegs and ruining a ride. well worth the price, imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRed350x Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 The only reason for your shifter linkage to come off the pegs on the shift star is if the stop that's built into the side-cover is getting worn. Its actually your clutch cover that holds the shifter linkage against the shift star. Look at your cover next time you have it off and you will notice a little post cast into the cover that pushes the linkage towards the shift star. I've seen people use washers between the shift lever and the side-cover to basically pull the shifter linkage towards the shift star. You can also weld a little dimple on the end of your shift shaft so the side-cover has a little more to push against, but you have to measure and make sure you don't put too much on it and end up pushing the shifter linkage too far, or risk cracking your side-cover when you torque it down. If your shifter linkage is coming off your shift star, then something is worn out. I'd start by replacing whatever is worn first, be it the shifter linkage, or the sidecover that holds it in place. The factory pegs are plenty long enough to hold your shift shaft if evrything is in spec. You can mod your stock shift star for free and save a few coins or spend that money elsewhere. The majority of the mods people pay builders for can be done yourself for free with a little time and planning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bansheesandrider Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 The only reason for your shifter linkage to come off the pegs on the shift star is if the stop that's built into the side-cover is getting worn. Its actually your clutch cover that holds the shifter linkage against the shift star. Look at your cover next time you have it off and you will notice a little post cast into the cover that pushes the linkage towards the shift star. I've seen people use washers between the shift lever and the side-cover to basically pull the shifter linkage towards the shift star. You can also weld a little dimple on the end of your shift shaft so the side-cover has a little more to push against, but you have to measure and make sure you don't put too much on it and end up pushing the shifter linkage too far, or risk cracking your side-cover when you torque it down. If your shifter linkage is coming off your shift star, then something is worn out. I'd start by replacing whatever is worn first, be it the shifter linkage, or the sidecover that holds it in place. The factory pegs are plenty long enough to hold your shift shaft if evrything is in spec. You can mod your stock shift star for free and save a few coins or spend that money elsewhere. The majority of the mods people pay builders for can be done yourself for free with a little time and planning. Wrong, when the claw on the shift shaft starts wearing and getting sloppy, the claw can come off the star even if the shift shaft is held in the proper position by the case. Granted, this means the claw is getting worn,but it can still ruin a riding trip or at least cause some unexpected repairs and loss of riding time. Therefore, I thinh the longer pegs are a great idea, it extends the life of the shift shaft and might save a riding trip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blowit Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 Keep in mind too that the cases will wear before the shaft will (on the shaft OD). The cases are Al and the shaft is hardened steel. Other areas of wear are the moving components (claw) on the shift shaft. Mull Engineering Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRed350x Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 Wrong, when the claw on the shift shaft starts wearing and getting sloppy, the claw can come off the star even if the shift shaft is held in the proper position by the case. Granted, this means the claw is getting worn,but it can still ruin a riding trip or at least cause some unexpected repairs and loss of riding time. Therefore, I thinh the longer pegs are a great idea, it extends the life of the shift shaft and might save a riding trip. If the claw is sliding off the pegs on the star, then its worn out and should have been replaced before the ride to begin with. General maintenance and routine inspections on off-ride time can prevent most problems. I don't have anything at all against mull engineering, I just think that the $ he would be spending on the shift star could be spent elsewhere. If he's got shift star issues, that $ should go towards fixing whatever part is worn out, to remedy the issue the correct way. Mull is also correct, the side-cover will wear faster than the shift shaft. Aluminum vs Steel just like he said. I've also seen people run without the gasket and just put some RTV red on the case to take up a couple thousands of slack if needed. Basically I would just say to keep up on the routine maintenance on your bike and check the parts that are known to wear and you can save the $ you would spend on artificial fixes on other goodies. - Jared Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bansheesandrider Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 (edited) If the claw is sliding off the pegs on the star, then its worn out and should have been replaced before the ride to begin with. General maintenance and routine inspections on off-ride time can prevent most problems. I don't have anything at all against mull engineering, I just think that the $ he would be spending on the shift star could be spent elsewhere. If he's got shift star issues, that $ should go towards fixing whatever part is worn out, to remedy the issue the correct way. Mull is also correct, the side-cover will wear faster than the shift shaft. Aluminum vs Steel just like he said. I've also seen people run without the gasket and just put some RTV red on the case to take up a couple thousands of slack if needed. Basically I would just say to keep up on the routine maintenance on your bike and check the parts that are known to wear and you can save the $ you would spend on artificial fixes on other goodies. - Jared Like I said, if the claw is jumping off, it is probably wore out. But, the extended pins will increase the life of the shift shaft and possibly keep a ride from going bad. There is no excuse not to maintain your bikes, but some people don't have a full blown shop out back. They have a 1 or 2 car garage and a set of hand tools in a 20 inch tool box, for those people it makes sense to buy a ground shift star. If you need to buy a shift star, you might as well get one that will maximise the life of your shift shaft. Also, grinding the shift star makes a hell of a difference in the way a Banshee shifts. All this being said, I have a full blown shop, a huge Snap On roll around and maintain my bikes explicitly. The original clutch cover on my 20 year old Banshee shows no wear from the shift shaft and I had to replace the shaft once because the claw wore out, yes I caught it during routine maintaince. In closing, I would say if you need to but a shift star the Mull Engineering piece is the one to get. Edited January 21, 2010 by bansheesandrider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3lue by u Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 I was just getting ready to ask the same question I am probably going to get one just to help it shift better and for peace of mind. Sure I could take mine off and grind it my self but who is to say that I would take off enough material or take off too much... I love doing things myself but would also like the idea of the longer dowels. My shee defnitely doesnt like to shift when under pressure. Case in point I was racing a 450 across a sandbar/rocky area and I couldnt get it out of third while racing but under normal loads it shifted out fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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