Oregon dunes closure meeting

[Shawn R]

Ok, I know that not everybody on here rides in Oregon, but this can happen to anyone who loves to enjoy their riding areas. There is a meeting on January 23rd 2010, 8:30 a.m. @ Honeyman State Park in the big yurt: Will be held a U.S. Forest Service meeting about dune CLOSURES!!! For more info on this move please see www.dunercentral.com search "Legislation for ALL Oregon Dunes" or rhinoforums.net search "Oregon Dunes affected by 10-C Management Plan" and "Oregon Riders, Beware" We all need to let our voices be heard and avoid our riding areas from being shut down. We all need to come together to keep this from happening. Lets help save our riding areas. I just received this information today.....

[laketappsbanshee]

Ok, I know that not everybody on here rides in Oregon, but this can happen to anyone who loves to enjoy their riding areas. There is a meeting on January 23rd 2010, 8:30 a.m. @ Honeyman State Park in the big yurt: Will be held a U.S. Forest Service meeting about dune CLOSURES!!! For more info on this move please see www.dunercentral.com search "Legislation for ALL Oregon Dunes" or rhinoforums.net search "Oregon Dunes affected by 10-C Management Plan" and "Oregon Riders, Beware" We all need to let our voices be heard and avoid our riding areas from being shut down. We all need to come together to keep this from happening. Lets help save our riding areas. I just received this information today.....

 

 

That is terrible news!!! What is their reasoning??? I wish I lived closer to be there! Good luck!

[Snopczynski]

Which dunes are being closed? For what reasons?

[Shawn R]

Which dunes are being closed? For what reasons?

 

From the information they are looking at closing parts off. I read the information from the forest service website and it looks like parts of florence, winchester bay, and coos will be affected. They are trying to close off more pieces in their quest to get hem all closed. Enviromentalists and the transplants that moved up here that complain about the sound. You can go to the forest service website as it has all the previous meeting information. Dunercentral.com has a good recap on this meetings since one of the members of the panel is a member there.

Edited January 13, 2010 by Shawn R

[J-Madd]

The tree hugging EPA fags just shut down St. Joe State Park here in MO due to lead content from the old mines that used to be there.

 

Good luck, I hope ya'll can keep the dunes open.

[rubberneck]

Guys you need to fight this thing hard. We lost 90% of the area to ride in at Pismo almost 25 years ago, and they keep adding more and more fences to make it even smaller. it is only a matter of time before they get the rest. It basically sucks to ride now. The envirofags will never give up. Their latest bitch and tactic is high levels of particulate matter in the air downwind of the riding areas. So get the locals together and fight for all you are worth.

[MikeNick]

Evironmentalists are so stupid. Don't they understand the climate isn't changing. Al Gore is a liar and also not the creator of the internet. They have those scientists emails that were hacked into saying how all the climate mumbo jumbo is a farse..hahaha...Fuckin idiots.

[jlevasseur]

This is pretty upsetting.... Not only has the sport completly exploded in the last 10 years but they still continue to shut the recreational areas down. In this economy I can only wonder if they will know what kinda of further damage this will do to business's not only the tourist towns up and down the oregon coast but for big company's like all the bike manifacture's and dealerships, like skat track, fox, yamaha, honda or even bike shops like cascade, white knuckle, topdog, redline,....ect. They need to realize how much revenue we the rider's bring in that keeps people jobs. I bet if they keep closing down the dunes people are going to lose interesest. That means no one is going to buy bikes or build or fix them. know one is going to buy that nice 80k toyhauler, Knowone is going to spend hundreds of dollars in race gas or gorcery's. Knowone is going to visit these tourist towns while down at the Dunes for gas, lunch, drinks or whatever. Sure There are other attractions that attract tourist to the little beach towns but besides fishing I can't think of another sport that beats Duning. I didn't even mention that park rangers, police, camphost's ect. might loose there jobs. In an economy like this closing the dunes is absoluley lutacris. The effect that it will have on the economy, especially Oregon's economy will be far more vast then just shutting down a few dunes. You already can't find a camp spot during the summer unless you reserve a year ahead of time and the sport keeps growing and growing ....why? Because its a very popular, fun sport. The state, county, city or who ever needs to take advantage of this opportunity where people are still spending money to ride and camp and open more camgrounds. Just think of all that revenue at what 15-25 bucks a night a campspot and there packed all summer, spring and fall long.....I don't know about you guys but i spend alot of money in this sport from the toyhauler, to the bikes and not only do I support a lot of bussiness's in my hometown with my spending but when I go to the beach, they also get a pretty penny for things like gas, food, parts....ect, and I know I am not the only one. Do these people really think we are going to continue to spend that kind of money for a sport we can't enjoy when all the dunes are closed. It will be like Sandlake with all of florence's, coosbay's and winchester bay's campers, a complete parking lot with one hill....Next thing you will see is Oregon's unemployment rate at 20%....Here's an idea, with all the revenue we bring in, why don't we build more campgrounds, putting people back to work, open more dunes, attracting more people to the sport which will only earn the county or state even more money along with making bussiness's money and putting people back to work.....ok....I think I typed out my frustration......time for a beer.

[rubberneck]

This is pretty upsetting.... Not only has the sport completly exploded in the last 10 years but they still continue to shut the recreational areas down. In this economy I can only wonder if they will know what kinda of further damage this will do to business's not only the tourist towns up and down the oregon coast but for big company's like all the bike manifacture's and dealerships, like skat track, fox, yamaha, honda or even bike shops like cascade, white knuckle, topdog, redline,....ect. They need to realize how much revenue we the rider's bring in that keeps people jobs. I bet if they keep closing down the dunes people are going to lose interesest. That means no one is going to buy bikes or build or fix them. know one is going to buy that nice 80k toyhauler, Knowone is going to spend hundreds of dollars in race gas or gorcery's. Knowone is going to visit these tourist towns while down at the Dunes for gas, lunch, drinks or whatever. Sure There are other attractions that attract tourist to the little beach towns but besides fishing I can't think of another sport that beats Duning. I didn't even mention that park rangers, police, camphost's ect. might loose there jobs. In an economy like this closing the dunes is absoluley lutacris. The effect that it will have on the economy, especially Oregon's economy will be far more vast then just shutting down a few dunes. You already can't find a camp spot during the summer unless you reserve a year ahead of time and the sport keeps growing and growing ....why? Because its a very popular, fun sport. The state, county, city or who ever needs to take advantage of this opportunity where people are still spending money to ride and camp and open more camgrounds. Just think of all that revenue at what 15-25 bucks a night a campspot and there packed all summer, spring and fall long.....I don't know about you guys but i spend alot of money in this sport from the toyhauler, to the bikes and not only do I support a lot of bussiness's in my hometown with my spending but when I go to the beach, they also get a pretty penny for things like gas, food, parts....ect, and I know I am not the only one. Do these people really think we are going to continue to spend that kind of money for a sport we can't enjoy when all the dunes are closed. It will be like Sandlake with all of florence's, coosbay's and winchester bay's campers, a complete parking lot with one hill....Next thing you will see is Oregon's unemployment rate at 20%....Here's an idea, with all the revenue we bring in, why don't we build more campgrounds, putting people back to work, open more dunes, attracting more people to the sport which will only earn the county or state even more money along with making bussiness's money and putting people back to work.....ok....I think I typed out my frustration......time for a beer.

 

The problem is you are using rational thinking. LOL... The envirofag tree huggers dont care about anything you mentioned. they are basically domestic terrorists in my book. What you describe is exactly what i have seen in the pismo area. I have been going there since i was a kid in the 70s. We used to be able to drive the buggies right down to the boardwalk and shop buy parts food whatever. The dunes were huge, you could literally go for hours and not see another group of duners if you wanted. Now they have everybody crammed into a tiny little fenced area with no decent sized hills. I dont go into town and spend money unless i have to cause it is drama. If i could jump on the bike and run down and get some stuff i would do it a lot more, but must now be street legal just to get there. It is unsafe and not a lot of fun on busy weekends imho. I wont take the family on a weekend because we have had too many issues. Busy weekends are guy only trips. it sucks because growing up i spent every single holiday in pismo with family, and my kids will not experience that. As far as us not spending money on toy haulers and trailers and everything else, that is exactly what they wabnt. they want us all riding bicycles and wearing hemp clothes. Nothing would be more pleasing to them than getting rid of trucks and RVs. the true problem is they dont care about anything but their cause and are usually well funded and connected. It really blows and i hope it doesnt happen but wont be a bit surprised when it does.

[450god]

Man, I ride there every July, I live in California and wish I could attend some meetings. How can I let my voice be heard!

[Senator]

Yep, these progressive liberals are a lot like trust fund babies...

 

1. They don't know or care where the money comes from

2. They assume the money will never run out no matter how recklessly they behave with it

3. They are in pursuit of some cause, often a pointless one, that can help define them and make them feel like a good person

Edited January 15, 2010 by Senator

[jlevasseur]

Well hopefully there will be some Duners there to make there stand to who ever is in control weather it be the city, county or forest service. We need to make them understand NOT to buy into the tree hunggin motha F-ers wants and look at the big picture. I think once enough guys go down there including business owners and make valid points like the effect on closing down more dunes, they might think twice. Florence is about half what it used to be 15 years ago anyway, before long there isn't gonna be much left. But I've been riding for 25years and have seen these debates come up plettly of time's. Hopefully we come out of top.

[Senator]

Well hopefully there will be some Duners there to make there stand to who ever is in control weather it be the city, county or forest service. I think once enough guys go down there including business owners and make valid points like the effect on closing down more dunes, they might think twice.

 

My wife and i will both be traveling 9 hours each way from Seattle be there to support keeping land open to OHV use. Keep in mind, this group doesn't make the decisioon, legislators do. This is only a work group put together (like a committee) to gather information, discuss options and make a recommendation to those who will actually make the decision. Convincing these guys that their recommendations shoudl include reasons why this needs to stay open is only part of the battle. The legislators are really the ones wioth the final say. The the eco terrorists have the funds to buy these legislators. The results and recommendations of this work group are but one flea on the dog when you look at the big picture. Sure as the sun rises in the east, legislators need one thing money can't buy and that's votes. If enough people contact their legislators and let them know that their vote will go to those who support public land use for everyone, including OHV users, we have a chance at delaying the full closures.

 

 

 

Florence is about half what it used to be 15 years ago anyway, before long there isn't gonna be much left. But I've been riding for 25years and have seen these debates come up plettly of time's. Hopefully we come out of top.

 

Exactly. They keep taking it away a little at a time, which is what they're trying to do more of now. Not too many OHV enthusiasts seem to really care. I hear them say things like "it's not like they're closing it all or anything, right?" I'm not sure when my off road loving bretheren, as a group, plan to join me in the fight to keep our land available but I can tell you this. If folks don't start stepping up soon, doing more than bitching on forums, we'll all be trading in our bikes for bowling shoes cause the eco terrorists are closing land to OHV use at a record pace.

[jlevasseur]

Is this meeting open to the public?

[Shawn R]

Is this meeting open to the public?

From what I have seen it is open to the public and the more people we can get to turn out to let our voices be heard to the panel. The final decisions will come down to our legislators so I would encourage to write to them since we are the people who put them in office to look out for our best interests not some environmentalists. Money talks and we know what walks.....