stringbeanbowler Posted November 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 If this is the stuff that you put in your banshee then that is probably part of the problem. It also needs to be drained right away. http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/fgr.aspx This is a Hypoid Gear lube made for differentials in cars and trucks. It has aditives that will cause your clutch to slip. It is also way to thick and probably will make the jumping forward when cold even worse. I would flush it out a couple times with a cheap Automatic Transmission Fluid Type F. You can continue to run ATF type F or put an oil in it that is designed for 2 stroke transmissions. You can run a Synthetic 10w30 engine oil that is designed for wet clutches (pretty much any Motorcycle & ATV specific oil). You can also run 2 Stroke Transmission specific oils. They are a better option than a motorcycle engine oil. ATF type F is going to be the thinest and will need to be changed more frequently than 2 stroke tranmission oil. Here are some good 2 Stroke Transmission oils. I run Klotz Flex Drive 30 http://www.klotzlube.com/proddetail.asp?prod=KL%2D506%5FQuart&cat=4 Bel Ray Gear Saver is also another good oil. It comes in 75W, 80W, and 85W. The Gear Saver 80W-90, and 75W-140 are Hypoid Gear Lubes and you dont want them. I would run the 75W if you go with Gear Saver. If you shake a bottle of 80W Gear saver and a bottle of 80W-90 Hypoid Gear lube the Hypoid oil is much thicker. The 80W Gear Saver Transmission oil is about like a quart of 10W30 engine oil. http://www.belray.com/consumer/product.fsp?pid=1336 josh That's not the exact stuff I put in, but it's close. I put in http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/mtg.aspx It is also for automobiles. I looked all over the web for an answer to what to put into the gear case and found a bunch of different answers. I figured thicker gear oil wouldn't hurt for my gears. : ] Besides, the problem existed before I bought the quad and before I changed the oil in it. That doesn't mean the previous owner knew what to put in though. The clutch doesn't slip...yet. I would like to hear more feedback on this oil issue, but it wouldn't hurt to run the oil you suggested since it's made for it. I definitely appreciate your input and the way you expressed it. Many thanks my friend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtydownunder Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 no where does it say its suitable on wet clutch's, id drain it and use something for wet clutched transmissions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bansheesandrider Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 I highly recomend the Klotz Flex Drive 30, Klotz part number KL506. I have tried motor oil, ATF type F, Honda HP gear lube and BelRay GearSaver, and the Klotz works better than any of them. My bike shifts the best with Klotz and when I was running the motor oil and ATF, I was getting alot of metallic particles in the oil when I changed it. I did not have the Honda oil in very long(1 ride) becuase it shifted like shit, so I don't know about metallic particles with it. My bike works fine aligning the arrows, as does the wife's and most of my friends, but some guy's don't. The main thing is to make sure there is some clearance between the clutch arm, pushrod, ball and the adjuster screw on the pressure plate, so the ball doesn't weld itself to the pushrod. I line my arrows up, I run the Klotz oil and I have never welded a ball to the pushrod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwistedSheeRida Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Yo man your using the wrong amsoil. 10w40 is the amsoil you want. i run it in mine ten times better then any other oil ive run through it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locogato11283 Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 id just grab some cheap 10w40 at any auto parts store. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stringbeanbowler Posted November 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 I highly recomend the Klotz Flex Drive 30, Klotz part number KL506. I have tried motor oil, ATF type F, Honda HP gear lube and BelRay GearSaver, and the Klotz works better than any of them. My bike shifts the best with Klotz and when I was running the motor oil and ATF, I was getting alot of metallic particles in the oil when I changed it. I did not have the Honda oil in very long(1 ride) becuase it shifted like shit, so I don't know about metallic particles with it. My bike works fine aligning the arrows, as does the wife's and most of my friends, but some guy's don't. The main thing is to make sure there is some clearance between the clutch arm, pushrod, ball and the adjuster screw on the pressure plate, so the ball doesn't weld itself to the pushrod. I line my arrows up, I run the Klotz oil and I have never welded a ball to the pushrod. I'll try the Klotz first, and I have a feeling I will be happy and not want to try anything else. I have heard the name Klotz many times as a kid and never thought about trying it because I hear a lot about Amsoil nowadays. My dad used to race odysseys or however you spell it and I should have asked him. He's always grumpy though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKheathen Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 you just want to avaid oils with friction modifiers and heavy weight....i went with gm auto trac II fort cold weather Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooker82 Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 The Klotz Flex Drive 30 is pretty good stuff. It doesnt get as dirty as fast as gear saver, hond hp, and regular engine oil. The only other oil I have tried that was as good was Silkolene Comp Gear, but it is hard to find since it is mainly used and produced in England. http://www.silkolene.com/index.php?calling=product⊂=maintain#maintain_p16 I would at least flush that Amsoil out with 2 quarts of ATF type F. Just to make sure you get it out. josh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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