itzra Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 Hello, happy drunk thanks giving to all, i write seeking for your advise i want to upgrade my front suspension i bought my banshee with the front tires reversed so it is wider than stock, now what do you think its better, i only have money for one of two choices i can put the fox floats in front with the stock a-arms or get from alba the kit with the a arms +2+1 and the basic elkas i ride on hard terrain and i plan to get into xc races ( i get in one and love to beat some raptors and trx450r's but my suspension sucks) so, what do you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrMeyer Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 Ok here is the deal.. .I would go with the +2+1 arms and elkas... I have had two sets of the standard elkas and they are great. I sold them to my dad and a buddy of mine and they are night and day over stock... Also moving to a +2+1 arms the bike will handle like its on rails. I am I big fan of elkas... I have the dune shocks on my 660 and 700 raptors and elkas on my rhino. The only reason why I didnt go elkas onmy banshee is because I have had great luck with the yfz 450 shocks. I for one like fox shocks on rails and what not but have had some neg feed back on the floats. When they heat up they fade fast and ride higher and harder. As for works have had nothing but probs with them. I had the triple rate pros on my 660 and they faded after about 30mins of dune riding... You would feel the shock and it was hot. Moved to the elkas and they are ice cold. Aslo the rez's on the works are smaller then the yfz 450s. If i was you I would save my money and spend the money on nice shocks that are all around adj. The basic elkas are very nice for what they are and you can get them set up on how you want to ride. But find some nice heavy duty arms if your going to be doing MX the standard alba arms are nice but arent made for the xm unless you get the comp edition. I have the sport edition on my 660 and love them. try to find something with 4130 chromoly. I have the Burgard +2+1 arms on my banshee and they are great and have held up to everything i have thrown at it. And I love to jump my banshee like its a 2 wheeler. So best of luck!!! Anymore ?'s feel free to message me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itzra Posted November 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 thanks GrMeyer, if i change the a-arms would it be better to put the rims the way they come stock or you thik that it can handle the hits the way they are? (which is reversed) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtydownunder Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 with the floats you can use them on stock arms and wider ones, you just have to pump more air into them. I havent had any probs with mine and never experianced fade or anything. they also have always held pressure. The floats have a 60day trial of the valving if you dont like it you can send them back to get revalved. the reason why i opted for the floats was because i didnt really need all the adjustment the elkas gave you and if i wanted a harder/softer ride i could just add and take air away. one thing that sucks about the floats, is there air sleeve maintenance once a year or so. It takes all of 15-20 mins to do but you dont have to do it with elkas and that what i think about when im doing it haha. all and all im really really happy with my floats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrMeyer Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 If you go to a longer a arms then your going to need shocks that are valved for that length. Valving is the key and also having the right preload on springs as well. The only prob with using an air pump on shocks is that it is normal air. That air will get hot and expand over time of riding. Making for a harder/taller ride. If you moved to a N2 air then that will not fade. That is why they use it in the air side of the shocks on all shocks with oil. But all shocks need to have maintenance on them once a year... Should have their oil changed every year depending on how hard and time on bike. Just like motor oil, sludge builds up as the oil breaks down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrMeyer Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 Im not putting fox shocks down... They are a great company. All my advice has come from years of experience with cars, trucks, quads, hot rods, sand rails, race cars and so on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtydownunder Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 yeh, totally understandable, i only have my own experiance with these air shox, which is the first time ive used an air spring, and so far im liking them. i could change to elkas and think "man why didnt i get these first". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bansheekx Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 Hello, happy drunk thanks giving to all, i write seeking for your advise i want to upgrade my front suspension i bought my banshee with the front tires reversed so it is wider than stock, now what do you think its better, i only have money for one of two choices i can put the fox floats in front with the stock a-arms or get from alba the kit with the a arms +2+1 and the basic elkas i ride on hard terrain and i plan to get into xc races ( i get in one and love to beat some raptors and trx450r's but my suspension sucks) so, what do you think? You mentioned a suspension kit from alba in your post, the last time I was on there site they did not show a shock and a arm kit for the banshee. Has anybody dealt with alba since they have changed ownership of the website? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrMeyer Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 You mentioned a suspension kit from alba in your post, the last time I was on there site they did not show a shock and a arm kit for the banshee. Has anybody dealt with alba since they have changed ownership of the website? I didnt go through them for their arms. I went off line from someone that had a great deal on them. And then I ordered my shocks. Sometimes its ok to go with the kit and others it is easier to peace together. I just knew i was looking for a +2+1 arms and look for deals on them. I have tried the Fullflight arms and they held up fine but the hemi joins go fast. So i moved back to a ball joined arms. So it all depends on what your going to be doing with the quad and how much your wanting to spend. I would have to say that a good set of shocks for MX/duning would need Preload and compression at the min. And rebound is great if you know what your doing for setting up your shocks. It does take time for trial and error. I didnt learn how to set my bikes up for almost a month of riding and tryn to get a feel for what everything does. On some shocks if you change the compression it will mess with the rebound. But not with elkas. That was another reason why i love their shocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itzra Posted November 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 Thank you all for your input, its always good to have advice from people who have experience, i haven't called alba recently, did they change owner or something? their web page sucks now, i hope they still have the banshee kit, i saw a couple of months ago, or anyone know where else can y get a-arms +2+1 and elkas for about $750? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locogato11283 Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 i would definitely run the elkas and an aftermarket shock. there are several site sponsors here that can either build you a set of arms or get you a set that are in stock. i would say good luck on getting arms and shocks for $750. that would be a steal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itzra Posted November 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 yeah i know they are at a great price, thats what they have on their web, rec shocks, brake lines and arms for a banshee for $749.00 to be exact look FITS: Banshee, MAKE: Yamaha, YEAR: 90-06, COLOR: Black - Pro Elite A-Arm Kit Part#: AL210-110-G-KIT List Price: $1,010.00 Our Price: $749.99 You Save: $260.01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shogs Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 you got a link? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itzra Posted November 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 sure, or put in the search elka and banshee and it takes you there http://www.albaaction.com http://www.albaaction.com/productdetail.htm?productId=9069663&catalogId=&searchProducts=elka%20banshee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locogato11283 Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 thats a good fuckin deal on arms and good shocks. i really need one of my site sponsors to get hooked up with elka so we can get some discounts here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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