freak4yahweh Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 (edited) Good Afternoon Gentlemen, I new to the ATV world, but acquired an 01 Banshee a few months back. I decided to get rid of my crotch rocket and find something that I could play on a little more. Anyways, the banshee has been great and very reliable, but made a noise that concerned me coming back from a meeting I had on Sunday. I back roaded about 20 miles to the meeting, and all was great, until I was on my way home. I was flying down a dirt road in 6th gear when I heard a pop. 6th was still pulling fine, but now has a chattering (for lack of better words) noise in it. It is also doing it in 1st gear. Luckily it got me home, I kept it in 2nd-5th and was fine. I put it in 6th and 1st a few times to see if the chatter was still there. I don't power shift, I always use the clutch (i'm afraid of tearing it up) and I've no other problems from my banshee. And for the record both seem to be pulling fine, what little I've checked it out. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I've searched, and decided to register since I couldn't find an answer. Thanks for the help. Brian Edited October 20, 2009 by freak4yahweh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKheathen Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 well, can you describe the pop and chatter a little better? was it like a backfire, or more mechanical, like you could feel it in the bike. when you say chatter, all that comes to mind is a shimmy feeling. is it more of a rattle? pinging noise in the pipes? any more discriptive would help. it could be as simple as your chain/sprocket/hubs, or it could be worse..... have you checked the jetting? btw, it took me 8 hours untill the board would let me post this reply......sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freak4yahweh Posted October 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 well, can you describe the pop and chatter a little better? was it like a backfire, or more mechanical, like you could feel it in the bike. when you say chatter, all that comes to mind is a shimmy feeling. is it more of a rattle? pinging noise in the pipes? any more discriptive would help. it could be as simple as your chain/sprocket/hubs, or it could be worse..... have you checked the jetting? btw, it took me 8 hours untill the board would let me post this reply......sorry It was a popping noise... After further inspection, it sounds like a bearing in the tranny has went out... I don't know what else it could be. I fired it up again last night and it made noise in every gear. But the feeling of the clutch and and actual engaging of the gears wasn't any different. The noise would go away when I pulled the clutch in, so it leads me to believe that it's a bearing in the tranny. I don't know much about these, but it looks like I've got a job ahead of me. As far as the engine is concerned, it is running great, as always. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwistedSheeRida Posted October 21, 2009 Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 shifting forks are junk. dont ride it anymore or youll just make it worse. did this to me on my blaster first one gear went than another and so on. i ended up ridin home down roads in 5th gear trying not to stop at stop signs. tear it apart and plan on dropping some doe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freak4yahweh Posted October 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 shifting forks are junk. dont ride it anymore or youll just make it worse. did this to me on my blaster first one gear went than another and so on. i ended up ridin home down roads in 5th gear trying not to stop at stop signs. tear it apart and plan on dropping some doe If it was the shift forks, wouldn't it cause me to have actual shifting problems? Thank You for your help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastbanshee8 Posted October 21, 2009 Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 Check the bearings in the axle carrier. Check the sprockets for missing teeth, and make sure your chain is adjusted properly, so it isn't jumping the teeth on the sprockets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freak4yahweh Posted October 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 (edited) Check the bearings in the axle carrier. Check the sprockets for missing teeth, and make sure your chain is adjusted properly, so it isn't jumping the teeth on the sprockets. I believe the problem lies in the transmission. The sound happens when sitting still, as long as the 'shee is running. The sound stops when the clutch lever is pulled. When the cluctch lever is pulled, the tranny gears are no longer engaged, which leads me to believe that it is some sort of bearing in the transmission. Does anyone have any pics of the insides of the banshee's tranny?? Thanks Edited October 21, 2009 by freak4yahweh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKheathen Posted October 21, 2009 Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 start by removing the clutch cover and check out your basket gear. it should be pretty tight. you can see all the primary gearing and such. if you can't see anything, you can pull the whole engine and pull just the bottom case half. there is a recent thread on that in here. then, you can see everything. pick up a clymers and some yamabond/threebond, and you can safely get it apart and back together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-=:RaMMeR:=- Posted November 5, 2009 Report Share Posted November 5, 2009 I believe the problem lies in the transmission. The sound happens when sitting still, as long as the 'shee is running. The sound stops when the clutch lever is pulled. When the cluctch lever is pulled, the tranny gears are no longer engaged, which leads me to believe that it is some sort of bearing in the transmission. Does anyone have any pics of the insides of the banshee's tranny?? Thanks I have some pics of my tranny here: http://banshee-blues.blogspot.com I just split my case last night to try and diagnose a shifting problem that I cant quite put my finger on. Hope the pics help! -=:RaMMeR:=- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freak4yahweh Posted November 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Thanks Gentlemen for all the help. I got it fixed finally. My cousin pulled it apart and all it was was the water pump. The plastic gear on the end of the water pump impellar kinda broke... It sent plastic shrapnel into the bearing that's on the water pump shafter. The water pump had a crack in it as well. He pulled the plastic out of the bearing and it spun freely. I bought a new gear for it, and put an aftermarket metal impellar back in it and put a new clutch and water pump gasket on it. Now it's back to irritating the neighbors. lol Thanks for the help guys, I'm sorry it took a while to get it fixed, but I wanted to post what was wrong with it in case some else had the same problem. Oh, and after I last posted, it started making the noise in all gears, including neutral with or without the clutch pulled in. Thanks again. Brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blowit Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Thanks Gentlemen for all the help. I got it fixed finally. My cousin pulled it apart and all it was was the water pump. The plastic gear on the end of the water pump impellar kinda broke... It sent plastic shrapnel into the bearing that's on the water pump shafter. The water pump had a crack in it as well. He pulled the plastic out of the bearing and it spun freely. I bought a new gear for it, and put an aftermarket metal impellar back in it and put a new clutch and water pump gasket on it. Now it's back to irritating the neighbors. lol Thanks for the help guys, I'm sorry it took a while to get it fixed, but I wanted to post what was wrong with it in case some else had the same problem. Oh, and after I last posted, it started making the noise in all gears, including neutral with or without the clutch pulled in. Thanks again. Brian NOt sure if you were aware but we do make a billet drive gear so that does not happen again... http://www.mullengineering.com/sc/store.php/products/yamaha-banshee-billet-water-pump-drive-gear-impeller-drag-race-sand-trail-power-online That plastic gear failure is rather common. Mull Engineering Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRed350x Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 (edited) I believe the problem lies in the transmission. The sound happens when sitting still, as long as the 'shee is running. The sound stops when the clutch lever is pulled. When the cluctch lever is pulled, the tranny gears are no longer engaged, which leads me to believe that it is some sort of bearing in the transmission. Does anyone have any pics of the insides of the banshee's tranny?? Thanks I had a bike with the EXACT same problem you have described here. It turned out to be worn out hub on the clutch basket combined with worn clutch basket cushions. Both of which are relatively easy to fix, but require removal of the clutch and inspection of the basket and draining of your oil and coolant to remove the sidecover. Its all really easy to check/fix if you don't mind getting a little dirty. These engines are very simple and if you have any mechanical knowledge it will be a simple check/fix for you if your problem is the same as mine. If you don't mind pulling your sidecover, I can tell you exactly what to look for and how to check it to see if the problem I had is the same as yours. - Jared Never mind, saw that you got it fixed. LOL Edited November 12, 2009 by BigRed350x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freak4yahweh Posted November 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 NOt sure if you were aware but we do make a billet drive gear so that does not happen again... http://www.mullengineering.com/sc/store.php/products/yamaha-banshee-billet-water-pump-drive-gear-impeller-drag-race-sand-trail-power-online That plastic gear failure is rather common. Mull Engineering Yeah, I actually thought about putting a metal one in there from them, but decided to put a plastic one because I though maybe the plastic one would act as a fail safe. Know what I mean. I have been looking into the metal one still tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freak4yahweh Posted November 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 I had a bike with the EXACT same problem you have described here. It turned out to be worn out hub on the clutch basket combined with worn clutch basket cushions. Both of which are relatively easy to fix, but require removal of the clutch and inspection of the basket and draining of your oil and coolant to remove the sidecover. Its all really easy to check/fix if you don't mind getting a little dirty. These engines are very simple and if you have any mechanical knowledge it will be a simple check/fix for you if your problem is the same as mine. If you don't mind pulling your sidecover, I can tell you exactly what to look for and how to check it to see if the problem I had is the same as yours. - Jared Never mind, saw that you got it fixed. LOL lol, thanks for the input tho, I appreciate it. Nice banshee!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rb0804 Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 Yeah, I actually thought about putting a metal one in there from them, but decided to put a plastic one because I though maybe the plastic one would act as a fail safe. Know what I mean. I have been looking into the metal one still tho. I believe that the aluminum gear was designed with the same intentions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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