twinrock Posted September 28, 2009 Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 i saw these are they any good..im not wanting a full drag set up, i know athena make good stuff for other road bikes..but never seen them for banshees..i think its odd that i can only find pics of the box..lol http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ATHENA-BIG-BORE-CYLINDER-KIT-392cc-BANSHEE-YFZ350_W0QQitemZ360188038262QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors_ATV_Parts_Accessories?hash=item53dce14c76&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banshee332 Posted September 28, 2009 Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 i saw these are they any good..im not wanting a full drag set up, i know athena make good stuff for other road bikes..but never seen them for banshees..i think its odd that i can only find pics of the box..lol http://cgi.ebay.com/...d=p4506.c0.m245 i was wondering the same thing when I came across them on ebay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted September 28, 2009 Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 Before I shelled out that money for a box, I'd pay for a reputable builder's port job. If you wanted a bolt on kit, I'd go with these. Are they a cub? No...but you don't want a full on drag motor. http://vitosperformance.com/atv_parts/product.php?productid=11399&cat=202&page=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coronakidd Posted September 28, 2009 Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 vitos is supose to be a good cylinder like tripple porting a stock set Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twinrock Posted September 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 yeah vito stuff looks good i have a cool head can i run it on those barrels and change the domes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberneck Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 yep, you will need big bore domes cut for the blaster pistons, Same ones we all run on the cub Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNR101 Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 Before I shelled out that money for a box, I'd pay for a reputable builder's port job. If you wanted a bolt on kit, I'd go with these. Are they a cub? No...but you don't want a full on drag motor. http://vitosperformance.com/atv_parts/product.php?productid=11399&cat=202&page=1 out of the box... how good are they..? they alot stronger than stockers? or will u have to get them ported ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 They are good out of the box. If you want the max power out of them....you need to get them ported. They are better than stockers, much better. They are no cub...or Twister. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberneck Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 Wonder what the port timing is like on these. Are they more of a strong dune cylinder out of the box. You said they arent a cub, and that might be a good thing if they have some decent bottom and mid range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 I think they'll be a great duner cylinder...but I'm into the drag race thing. From those that have played with these cylinders, their first comments are they need some grinding for peak HP. A duner doesn't need to extract that last few HP like a drag race guys does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNR101 Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 hmmm these cylinders sound like the shot... for a nice 421 duner ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bode1 Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 Could you port these to run them with a 4mil crank? Or do they already have porting for stock stroke? I googled them and didn't really see too much info on them. I would like to do a 4mil, but would also like to do a bigger bore at the same time, these might be the ticket. Sleeving seems like a hassle, although maybe it's easier than it sounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 Here's the problem with sleeving a set of stockers. It sucks... Plus, when you sleeve you lose tranfer area. These cylinders have the bigger bore with more transfer area and triple port exhaust. Vitos sells them...they do offer a 4 mil crank. The cylinders I posted a link to are for a 4 mil long rod crank. 58 stroke by 68 bore is 421cc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bode1 Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 (edited) Thanks Daj, I've seen those before, but missed your link when I read the thread. I was curious, still how the Vito's porting was out of the box. I've never really heard anything about these Atheana cylinders and was curious what they were like ported out of the box. I know I can't go to a 4mil with my current porting. I guess I was wondering if they were ported for a stock stroke from atheana, but too radical to go to a 4mil. I guess what I'm wondering if they are similar, as the atheana one is $100 less that could go towards the porting. Also, the Atheana ad said nickel carbide coating. Is the nickel carbide like a nikasal coating? Can you buy bigbore cylinders without the coating so the can be bored or no? and if so, would it be advisable or is the coating that good? Are the Vito's a good value, and does anyone sell them cheaper than Vito's? Edited September 29, 2009 by bode1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 I honestly have no idea what nickel carbide does for the cylinders. These cylinders are made for Vitos'...I doubt you'll find them cheaper unless they have an ebay or clearance sale, or someone cuts out the dealer (someone has a hookup with the manufacturer before they make it to Vitos) I seriously wouldn't waste any more time or money thinking about a product they only show you a box picture of... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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