1fastmofo Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 My kick return spring snapped in half yesterday. I rode all day yesterday with no problems. Got home, unloaded and went to start the Banshee so that I could pull it into the garage and the kickstarter wouldn't engage. I tried about a dozen times and nothing. I could move it by hand and it was completely free, no tension at all. Tore the side case off today and out falls 1/2 of the kick return spring. Can't find the other 1/2. My question.....Is it possible for the other 1/2 to have gone into the bottom end of the motor? I looked all over the clutch side and in the oil and can't find it. There wasn't any metal in the oil, so hopefully it hasn't done too much damage yet. I've never torn the cases apart and don't really want to do it now, if I don't have to. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILO Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 yikes, that sucks. i guess that's where a magnetic drain plug would come in handy. how big of a piece are you missing? it's possible it could be lodged somewhere yet. i would screen the oil that you drained just to double check for metal debris. maybe even take one of those little flexible telescopic handled magnets and probe around as much as possible around the inside of the drain hole or oil flow holes. if you are sure it is missing and didn't come out, i would crack the cases before running it again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1fastmofo Posted April 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 I am missing half of the spring. I snapped right in half. It's about an inch and a half long. It looks like a bent metal coat hanger piece. I have a magnetic drain plug and when I drained the oil, there wasn't any metal at all. I will take another look through the drain hole and the passages from the gearbox and the clutch to make sure that I didn't miss anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1fastmofo Posted April 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 I found it! I tipped the bike onto the grab bar and took out the drain plug and it was sitting right there. I tried to grab it with a pair of needle nose pliers and it slipped back into the case. At least now I know where it is. Now I just have to get it out of there. Thanks for the help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Madd Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 So you had half of the spring get all the way into the transmission area of the case (where the drain plug is located), and there was not metal in the oil???????? Not even sure how it could get in there, much less not do any damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1fastmofo Posted April 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 Yeah. As far as I can tell. It was running perfectly when I shut it down. When I took off the clutch cover, the idle gear and the kicker gear were fine. There was a scratch on the wall of the case where it looks like the spring spun around from the hole that it was supposed to have been in to the passage between the transmission and the clutch. I shined a light into a few of the passages and everything looked good, from what I could see. I know that is not the best way to check for damage, but I really don't want to crack the cases if I don't have to. When I drained the oil, I tried to check it really well and didn't see any metal pieces. I am going to check the oil again and take another look at the transmission just to make sure that I cannot see any damage, but maybe I just got lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILO Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 glad to hear that you found it bud. match it up to the other remaining spring part and try to determine if there are any pieces missing or if the break points match up to one another. you got lucky bud. :thumbsup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1fastmofo Posted April 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 Just thought that I would let you know that I found all of the pieces. It actually broke into three pieces. One piece I found right away. The second piece I found today snugged up against one of the ribs in the case on the clutch side, the third piece I was able to fish out with a magnet. I looked at the gears as best that I could and couldn't find any damage. I also looked at the three pieces and they fit together perfectly and did not have any knicks in them. Looks like I REALLY lucked out. I was really afraid that I was going to have to crack the cases. Thanks for the help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05.Banshee.SE Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 yikes, that sucks. i guess that's where a magnetic drain plug would come in handy. how big of a piece are you missing? it's possible it could be lodged somewhere yet. i would screen the oil that you drained just to double check for metal debris. maybe even take one of those little flexible telescopic handled magnets and probe around as much as possible around the inside of the drain hole or oil flow holes. if you are sure it is missing and didn't come out, i would crack the cases before running it again. For the damage a magnetic drain plug can cause, it's not worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1fastmofo Posted April 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 What damage can a magnetic drain plug cause? I have heard nothing but good things about them and have had no issues in the year that I have had mine. If it weren't for the magnetic drain plug, I probably would have had to crack the cases to get that piece of the spring out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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