vdubn Posted March 17, 2009 Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 Ok, so I have read a ton of threads on paddles, and I apologize ahead of time as so many of you have already responded to so many threads. I have run the 22x11x8 haulers on my sons Banshee that had some motor work, and a 6" extended swing, and I ran the 22x11x10 on a couple other Banshees with motor work and shorter or even stock swing arms, and liked them both, but for different reasons. So, I have some experience with the Haulers on Banshees, however my new project is totally out of my realm in terms of anything I have done before, but I know there are others with this kind of power, weight, etc., and wanted your expert advice. I am putting a 1000cc motor with fuel injection from a 2006 ZX10r into a modified Banshee frame, with a 10" extended swing, etc., etc. In stock form the motors put out about 165 hp and about 90ft-lb of torque, so trying to determine what would be the best paddles to run to get a good combination of traction, slip, rooster tail, etc. The bike is mostly just for fun, and for flat hauling across the sand flats and screamin up hills, no trail riding, etc. I was thinking that a set of 24" haulers, on 10" wheels is what I would want to run, but not sure if that size is right, what width, and how many paddles to run. Any help is greatly appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PACIFIC NW BANSHEE Posted March 19, 2009 Report Share Posted March 19, 2009 Ok, so I have read a ton of threads on paddles, and I apologize ahead of time as so many of you have already responded to so many threads. I have run the 22x11x8 haulers on my sons Banshee that had some motor work, and a 6" extended swing, and I ran the 22x11x10 on a couple other Banshees with motor work and shorter or even stock swing arms, and liked them both, but for different reasons. So, I have some experience with the Haulers on Banshees, however my new project is totally out of my realm in terms of anything I have done before, but I know there are others with this kind of power, weight, etc., and wanted your expert advice. I am putting a 1000cc motor with fuel injection from a 2006 ZX10r into a modified Banshee frame, with a 10" extended swing, etc., etc. In stock form the motors put out about 165 hp and about 90ft-lb of torque, so trying to determine what would be the best paddles to run to get a good combination of traction, slip, rooster tail, etc. The bike is mostly just for fun, and for flat hauling across the sand flats and screamin up hills, no trail riding, etc. I was thinking that a set of 24" haulers, on 10" wheels is what I would want to run, but not sure if that size is right, what width, and how many paddles to run. Any help is greatly appreciated. So here is my two cents .I would run a set of extreme super/ultra lights less rotating mass and for that level of horsepower i would go with at least a 12 paddle setup if not more .If it were me before i made the hefty investment in a set that might not work i would beg borrow steal a friends set of paddles and try them out before you buy .hope that helps and if all else fail you could call smi in oregon city and ask them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vdubn Posted March 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2009 I agree, that is a good idea, and I have dealt with SMI a lot, they are good guys, I will call them for some input tomorrow. One question regarding your recommendation of running 12 paddles.... would it be better to run maybe 10 or 11 to reduce the grip and give me a bit more spin? I am a bit concerned about too much traction with the 10" extended swing arm. I know that I want to hook, but I am just wondering what combo would be a good blend of traction and spin? I know, there are a lot of veriables...... Thanks for your help.... So here is my two cents .I would run a set of extreme super/ultra lights less rotating mass and for that level of horsepower i would go with at least a 12 paddle setup if not more .If it were me before i made the hefty investment in a set that might not work i would beg borrow steal a friends set of paddles and try them out before you buy .hope that helps and if all else fail you could call smi in oregon city and ask them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandRageShee Posted March 19, 2009 Report Share Posted March 19, 2009 (edited) we have a banshee with a zx900r motor in it extended +8 we are running some dick cepek 16 paddles that are 8 inch rims. and they are 22's i believe.. Edited March 19, 2009 by SandRageShee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vdubn Posted March 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2009 Wow, 16 paddles! I have seen some paddles with 12, but never seen 16's. Do you have a picture of your quad? How is it for wheelies (I'm sure it wants to come up frequently, just curious if its out of hand)? No wheelie bar I assume? Thanks we have a banshee with a zx900r motor in it extended +8 we are running some dick cepek 16 paddles that are 8 inch rims. and they are 22's i believe.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandRageShee Posted March 19, 2009 Report Share Posted March 19, 2009 (edited) i'll have to get some pictures of it, i dont have any on my computer right now as it is new but wheelies... when you dump the clutch..no..it doesnt wheelie..but of course the majority of the motor weight is forward.. it will come off the ground just a little when you are in it to when it then hit like a drop down or something... and no wheelie bar. Edited March 19, 2009 by SandRageShee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PACIFIC NW BANSHEE Posted March 20, 2009 Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 I agree, that is a good idea, and I have dealt with SMI a lot, they are good guys, I will call them for some input tomorrow. One question regarding your recommendation of running 12 paddles.... would it be better to run maybe 10 or 11 to reduce the grip and give me a bit more spin? I am a bit concerned about too much traction with the 10" extended swing arm. I know that I want to hook, but I am just wondering what combo would be a good blend of traction and spin? I know, there are a lot of veriables...... Thanks for your help.... I dont think that will be a problem with the level of horsepower you are talking about you will spin the piss out of some 12 paddles .I run 12 paddles on my 460 with six over swing arm works good for me. I run 10 paddle on my wifes 450 with 4 over swing arm .And both these bikes are not making near the horsepower you are putting out . What kinda vw do you own Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vdubn Posted March 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 Thanks for the info, I think that the 12 paddles sound like a good start. As for VWs, I've had a ton (water and aircooled), this one is the one I built from scratch: I dont think that will be a problem with the level of horsepower you are talking about you will spin the piss out of some 12 paddles .I run 12 paddles on my 460 with six over swing arm works good for me. I run 10 paddle on my wifes 450 with 4 over swing arm .And both these bikes are not making near the horsepower you are putting out . What kinda vw do you own Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRed350x Posted March 21, 2009 Report Share Posted March 21, 2009 Start with a 12 or 14 paddle 22" to 25" tall. You can adjust for the tire height with gearing changes. When I had a 600 in my raptor it would roast 22" 10 paddles like crazy. The 600 needed 12's to hook up at all, so a 1000 would probably do pretty good with 12-14 paddle, maybe even some 16's once you get the chassis dialed in and gearing tied down. I've got a friend who runs a gsxr1000 in a DS frame and he is running 16's and its just about perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PACIFIC NW BANSHEE Posted March 21, 2009 Report Share Posted March 21, 2009 Thanks for the info, I think that the 12 paddles sound like a good start. As for VWs, I've had a ton (water and aircooled), this one is the one I built from scratch: very nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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