YFZ 450 & Banshee front hubs

[speed-racer]

I've read tons of posts concerning the differences between the YFZ 450 and banshee front hubs, spindles, calipers etc.......but no one seemed to have had all of the information (not in one post anyways). BenBB seemed to have figured out most of this a long time ago and some of this may be a repost....I just wanted to compile all of the info into one thread. I have ran the YFZ a arms and shocks with Banshee spindles, hubs and brakes for the past year and am in the process of swapping to the YFZ spindles.

 

First of all, I've heard some people say that the YFZ spindle will give you more travel while others claim that the shock limits the travel to be within the limitations of the factory banshee spindle. After running both I can tell you that my shocks did limit the travel in a way that the YFZ spindles would not gain you any travel. Unless the shock was removed from the lower a arm you would not see an increase in travel. However, the ball joints appear to sit at a much more desirable angle with the YFZ spindles.

 

Second, the banshee hubs cannot be used on the YFZ spindle without machine work. The hubs can be found for 40 bucks on ebay so machine work would not be worth the effort. The banshee and YFZ share the same bearings and seals, but the banshee hub is too wide for the YFZ spindle. You cannot get the castle nut on and the brake caliper will not bolt up without modification. Also, be sure to get longer bolts if you plan to swap to YFZ spindles as they are aluminum and much thicker.

 

Something that I did not read in earlier posts (I might have read over it, surely someone has posted it) is tie rod length needs to be longer for the YFZ spindles than it does with the banshee spindles. I had enough adjustment to use my existing tie rods, but it was close. I don't have an accurate measurement of the difference, but it is enough to me mentioned. This may help with bump steer, depending on the new tie rod length. If I remember correctly they were shorter than the lower a arm with the banshee spindles. I'll have to double check that later.

 

All other parts interchange. Not sure if there is much benefit to the swap though. I bent a spindle and had these laying around so I thought I'd give it a shot. Sorry for the long writeup......hope this helps somebody out.

 

 

Mark

[Thom6069]

Im am in the process of installing raptor 700 a arms and spindles on my banshee. Thought I was goin to be done tonight when I found out that my raptor 700 tie rods are too short, not by much but they are. They measure 1 1/2 inches longer than stock banshee tie rods. I was under the impression that raptor 700 and yfz 450 front ends were the same... It appears that I am going to have to buy some aftermarket banshee tie rods, however I am trying to keep the price down so anyone know which ones are good but relativly cheap. Saw some on ebay that were +2 for around $50, however they were billet aluminum, is this strong enough? Or should I stick to steel?

[bansheeyfz450]

I bought +2 tie-rods from Full Flight on Ebay for $35. I also am using yfz450 tie-rod ends (12mm) bigger and stroner then banshee (10mm). If I were to do the tie-rods over I would get +3 tie-rods. i would email/call the guy at Full Flight.

[Coupelx]

i mention this in a few threads. look in the search.