blaster2006 Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 just got my DMC 916s installed, thanks to my ubber mechanic i got here,i took the carbs off the TORS too and pulled them out completely and gave them a good cleaning. i put 280 mains and stock pilot, but air screw 1 turn out, (idles perfect, runs good too on top end) although i did not manage to test ride it alot as its late night here, and its tooo bloody loud, but i went full throttle and no bogs seems fine, although my mechanic still is telling me its abit rich ( although he did not test ride yet). put everything back etc and my K&N pod filters, took us long time... those damn DMC pipes the 2in1 muffler is HARD to install... being 3 people working on the bike.. gah. other than that runs mint idles well a vid of it idling here : ( bad quality, will def get better sound quality later): http://s182.photobucket.com/albums/x182/bl...nt=Video007.flv pics are here: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarineNYC Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 Are you running no airbox? If so I think your jets might be too small. And your pilot is alot smaller than what I was running. I was running open airbox with 310 mains and 30 pilot. Im not saying that ur wrong but thats what the guys at DMC told me to run. and it ran flawlessly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magz Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 id run the idle a higher my self, with pods and you exhaust id probably be running 310 jets if the air temp you ride in is aroudn 60-80 degrees. and your elevation is btween 0 and 1000 feet. with the needle clip third or second from the bottom, and 1 turn out on air idle. not to contradict marinenyc, i talked to jeff from fast and loney from sandtrax and they both told me generally they never change the idle jets, it can always be adjusted out with the needle and air screw. but hey, whatever works and runs good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireroad Express Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 how do you like the power delivery of these pipes. would you describe them as a low to mid range pipe or mostly a mid range pipe? just asking for comparison puposes. alot of people describe the powerband of these pipes differently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarineNYC Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 id run the idle a higher my self, with pods and you exhaust id probably be running 310 jets if the air temp you ride in is aroudn 60-80 degrees. and your elevation is btween 0 and 1000 feet. with the needle clip third or second from the bottom, and 1 turn out on air idle. not to contradict marinenyc, i talked to jeff from fast and loney from sandtrax and they both told me generally they never change the idle jets, it can always be adjusted out with the needle and air screw. but hey, whatever works and runs good. Well said mags. Like I said I dont know if he is wrong but I was just stating when I was running. I want him to see the potential of those bad boys. And they are a mid to top pipe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blaster2006 Posted February 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 (edited) how do you like the power delivery of these pipes. would you describe them as a low to mid range pipe or mostly a mid range pipe? just asking for comparison puposes. alot of people describe the powerband of these pipes differently. Well, look, ive driven a banshee 2 days ago with T5s, filter, and VF3s . and with tis VF3s which i dont have, i noticed mine pulled way better bottom end and abit more mid end, and exactly same top end. you could say they are a better version of T5s. Well said mags. Like I said I dont know if he is wrong but I was just stating when I was running. I want him to see the potential of those bad boys. And they are a mid to top pipe. since all of you are telling me im lean, thats good, im happy, cause, everyone here locally tells me to run lower, like 260 or 270 ish. So ill stay with my 280s , it fired up after only 4 kicks when we put the bowls etc back on with this jetting anyway and we had no filters on at the first start, my mechanic thinks its too much for just filter and stock cylinders with stock compression etc... hes good mechanic but has weird opinions. oh and he also likes (he does this on all bikes he has and his customers bikes) he always puts the idle screw (not air screw, the silver one on top of tors) he puts it VERY low.. he loosens it so it revs very low, i prefer it high, so you feel good when it idles that it does not sound like its gonna turn off, but he wants it low because the engine can "relax" or "cool down" when you let it idle, and not always be running high, he said the engine will get tired like that if i keep the idle screw the way i wanted it. if you focus closely in the vid... the idling is pretty low revving (low RPM), and he wanted to make it even less but i told him not too and im thinking of raising it abit more even from what it is now. Edited February 6, 2009 by blaster2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberneck Posted February 6, 2009 Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 hes good mechanic but has weird opinions. oh and he also likes (he does this on all bikes he has and his customers bikes) he always puts the idle screw (not air screw, the silver one on top of tors) he puts it VERY low.. he loosens it so it revs very low, i prefer it high, so you feel good when it idles that it does not sound like its gonna turn off, but he wants it low because the engine can "relax" or "cool down" when you let it idle, and not always be running high, he said the engine will get tired like that if i keep the idle screw the way i wanted it. You sure he is so good? That is some of the craziest shit i have ever heard. And yes, if you are running K&N pods, i would bet you are lean with 280s. When i went from airbox with vent holes and unifilter to K&N pods, i had to go up 5 main jet sizes. Check your plugs, and if it starts breaking up on top, get out of it imediately and go put bigger mains in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spurdy Posted February 6, 2009 Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 Well, look, ive driven a banshee 2 days ago with T5s, filter, and VF3s . and with tis VF3s which i dont have, i noticed mine pulled way better bottom end and abit more mid end, and exactly same top end. you could say they are a better version of T5s. since all of you are telling me im lean, thats good, im happy, cause, everyone here locally tells me to run lower, like 260 or 270 ish. So ill stay with my 280s , it fired up after only 4 kicks when we put the bowls etc back on with this jetting anyway and we had no filters on at the first start, my mechanic thinks its too much for just filter and stock cylinders with stock compression etc... hes good mechanic but has weird opinions. oh and he also likes (he does this on all bikes he has and his customers bikes) he always puts the idle screw (not air screw, the silver one on top of tors) he puts it VERY low.. he loosens it so it revs very low, i prefer it high, so you feel good when it idles that it does not sound like its gonna turn off, but he wants it low because the engine can "relax" or "cool down" when you let it idle, and not always be running high, he said the engine will get tired like that if i keep the idle screw the way i wanted it. if you focus closely in the vid... the idling is pretty low revving (low RPM), and he wanted to make it even less but i told him not too and im thinking of raising it abit more even from what it is now. When I want to let my motor "relax" I shut it off! Lol. That is some strange logic there. An idling banshee is going to get hot, not cool down, due to the lack of air flow through the radiator. Just my 2 cents on that. SP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DallasGDub Posted February 6, 2009 Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 When I want to let my motor "relax" I shut it off! Lol. That is some strange logic there. An idling banshee is going to get hot, not cool down, due to the lack of air flow through the radiator. Just my 2 cents on that. SP I agree. I never idle long enough to worry about it and I have dust in my overflow bottle. I don't think it has ever over heated. I really only "idle" when I take it off the trailer to let it warm up. Other than that, it is pretty much off when I am stopped. I do idle on some down hills, and those short moments in the trails when I have to figure out where the hell I am/going. But it is very short. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blaster2006 Posted February 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 I agree. I never idle long enough to worry about it and I have dust in my overflow bottle. I don't think it has ever over heated. I really only "idle" when I take it off the trailer to let it warm up. Other than that, it is pretty much off when I am stopped. I do idle on some down hills, and those short moments in the trails when I have to figure out where the hell I am/going. But it is very short. yeah same here, i turn it off whenever i get the chance.. so it cools down... but... its on idle like.. what 5-10% of the time when you are riding it anyway.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKheathen Posted February 6, 2009 Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 I agree. I never idle long enough to worry about it and I have dust in my overflow bottle. I don't think it has ever over heated. I really only "idle" when I take it off the trailer to let it warm up. Other than that, it is pretty much off when I am stopped. I do idle on some down hills, and those short moments in the trails when I have to figure out where the hell I am/going. But it is very short. x2 i just let it idle to gear up, and it warms up then, so i can adjust real quick and go. have you every tried to talk to someone while it's running? i just hit the rear brake to stall, then kick and go when i'm done talking. dose it start first kick now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterlocal22 Posted February 7, 2009 Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 just got my DMC 916s installed, thanks to my ubber mechanic i got here,i took the carbs off the TORS too and pulled them out completely and gave them a good cleaning. i put 280 mains and stock pilot, but air screw 1 turn out, (idles perfect, runs good too on top end) although i did not manage to test ride it alot as its late night here, and its tooo bloody loud, but i went full throttle and no bogs seems fine, although my mechanic still is telling me its abit rich ( although he did not test ride yet). put everything back etc and my K&N pod filters, took us long time... those damn DMC pipes the 2in1 muffler is HARD to install... being 3 people working on the bike.. gah. other than that runs mint idles well a vid of it idling here : ( bad quality, will def get better sound quality later): http://s182.photobucket.com/albums/x182/bl...nt=Video007.flv pics are here: you have a real nice banshee bro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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