lt1bird Posted January 30, 2009 Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 Ive got my engine together finally....10mm and I was kicking it over to see how hard it is. Dam....It kicks over kinda slow...... I was hoping it would kick over a bit easier....Compression is about 170psi. I can kick it throught one cylinder compression stroke but cant get through the second one....Is this normal? Im thinking it would get through both cylinder compression strokes once. I have not "Jumped" on the starter yet....LOL... Its not any where near my cr500 but is still tough... Normal??? I knows its a lot larger than stock....my 250 2 stroke I just use my hand LOL.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alcoholbanshee Posted January 30, 2009 Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 Ive got my engine together finally....10mm and I was kicking it over to see how hard it is. Dam....It kicks over kinda slow......I was hoping it would kick over a bit easier....Compression is about 170psi. I can kick it throught one cylinder compression stroke but cant get through the second one....Is this normal? Im thinking it would get through both cylinder compression strokes once. I have not "Jumped" on the starter yet....LOL... Its not any where near my cr500 but is still tough... Normal??? I knows its a lot larger than stock....my 250 2 stroke I just use my hand LOL.... I guess about all I can tell ya is........with my 565cc twister you gotta kick it like ya got a set. It definetly aint no 350........LOL I have 175psi compression as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lt1bird Posted January 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 Im having flashbacks with the cr500 LOL....Kick that f-in thing more than I care to.... So if you do a less that full tilt kick your only gonna get through the one compression cycle? Should I start like the cr500....get it to the compression stroke and jump on it..... I acutally had better luck with the cr500 doing quicker rabbit kicks.... Does your big bore ever kick back on you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alcoholbanshee Posted January 30, 2009 Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 Im having flashbacks with the cr500 LOL....Kick that f-in thing more than I care to.... So if you do a less that full tilt kick your only gonna get through the one compression cycle? Should I start like the cr500....get it to the compression stroke and jump on it..... I acutally had better luck with the cr500 doing quicker rabbit kicks.... Does your big bore ever kick back on you? I push it over with my foot until it stops. Then kick it hard....lol. It does kick back every now and again....and when it does it hurts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lt1bird Posted January 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 Been there But can you kick it through the two compression cycles using one kick or just the one compression.....??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alcoholbanshee Posted January 30, 2009 Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 Been there But can you kick it through the two compression cycles using one kick or just the one compression.....??? Yes I can Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locogato11283 Posted January 30, 2009 Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 my 10mm is not hard to kick at all. im running 175 psi. i can kick mine over all day long easily. something is not right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docjcwatson Posted January 30, 2009 Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 This is just like the two-stroke powerband on the same motor! It depends on who ported it right? The powerband on Tyler's motor is going to be a lot different than the powerband on your motor. Even though they are the same size. My 14mil is a royal bitch to kick over! And when it kicks back, I have to stop and drink a beer. Lol. I take the kicker SLOWLY all the way threw the cycle 4-5 times with the throttle all the way open. Then I give her one good kick. Starts first time everytime. Also this has a lot to do with strength. Leg pressing 600lbs might be an easy task for some guys. Others, it is not as easy. Another thing is, you will get used to kicking over your motor. Like Tyler said, he has been turning his over for 4 years now. So his is pretty easy for him to kick over. Get it? Got it? GOOD! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2slow350 Posted January 30, 2009 Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 my 10mm is not hard to kick at all. im running 175 psi. i can kick mine over all day long easily. something is not right. I agree, i could of kicked my old 8mil with 78mm bore a day if I had to and same with some of the 10mils, 14's, etc with no problem.. I don't like kicking some 250r's tho, some of them can be a pain. But I believe if a engine don't start in less than 3 to 4 kicks that something is wrong.. Jmo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lt1bird Posted January 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 I know what you mean.....My kick leg was in great shape from kicking the cr500.... It's a trinty PV engine stock porting. Also im running a RZ350 kick starter which is longer...... I dont think its anywhere near the cr500 to kick.... but it does stop before I can get throught the second cylinder compression stroke. The compression stops me at the bottom of the kick stroke on the second cyl compression...... Hell maybe it will fire up no issue on the first cyl stroke.....I hope! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alcoholbanshee Posted January 30, 2009 Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 (edited) my 10mm is not hard to kick at all. im running 175 psi. i can kick mine over all day long easily. something is not right. The bigger bore adds something to the formula......I have kicked over a handful of 10 mil cubs, they are a cakewalk. Try kicking over my 10mil twister, or most any bigger bore, longer stroke engine that way and you will hurt yourself..........lol Allthough I would like to know what your squish is............ Edited January 30, 2009 by alcoholbanshee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docjcwatson Posted January 30, 2009 Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 Your ignition is factored in also. A stocker is a breeze compared to a PVL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted January 30, 2009 Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 My 10 mil cub with 180PSI plus and 11 degrees of timing is easy too... The first time it hits (cold) on meth...it'll kick back just a hair, but NOTHING scary... Otherwise, it's a breeze. Just be sure your carb aren't pouring fuel into the crankcase because of a stuck float, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klemet banshee Posted January 30, 2009 Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 ohh goddd my 500 put a hole in my boot!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lt1bird Posted January 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 I have a ignitech ignition. It runs off a 12V battery so the spark is real strong, dont need to kick it to pre-charge the cdi..... Im sure it will be fine....Plus the engine is tight as it has not been run yet.... Im sure after a heat cycle it will lossen up a tad... Hell, I had my xr600 throw me clear over the handlbars once when starting, thank god it was onto the grass....I pissed myself laughing... only if I had that on film!!! Anyone got some baseline jetting for this engine...I have 38mm carbs..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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