dragbanshee Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 You can take them both off, just do one at a time when you take it apart. This way if you get stuck, you'll have one to look off of. While your in there pull and clean the mains and the pilots. Before it happens, when you put your slides back in the carbs make sure you put the cut away part of the slides to the back of the bike. They will go in backwards so make sure cutout part of the round slide to the rear, hell they could be backwards now for all we know. Its a bitch to get the carbs back on with stock airbox. What I use to do is take the rubber boots off the box, put the carbs on and secure them, then flip the boots half way inside out. This makes them 1/2 the width and make sure you allready have your clamps on the box and the carbs, slide boot in place and flip the rubber back. It gets easier evertime you do it. One other thing, very IMPORTANT check the #s on the jets and write them down. You allways need to know what jets your running, so you will know which way to go next time you do a mod. Sounds like your on the right track now, just dont run it any more till you do these things . Good Luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blaster2006 Posted January 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 (edited) You can take them both off, just do one at a time when you take it apart. This way if you get stuck, you'll have one to look off of. While your in there pull and clean the mains and the pilots. Before it happens, when you put your slides back in the carbs make sure you put the cut away part of the slides to the back of the bike. They will go in backwards so make sure cutout part of the round slide to the rear, hell they could be backwards now for all we know. im not touching or messing with the slides, or needles etc, there is no way i can do that, trust me, i have a spare carb to play with when i bought it for my blaster i ended up never putting it on cause i couldnt even attach the throttle cable. all im gonna do is take the bowl off, and clean by the pilot jet and mains, and re put the bowl back. and somehow re attach it. if that does not work, it is going for service. i sure hope that bloody works. as for putting new 30:1 gas, with proper oil, i just called the guy who sold me the shee asking him what brand of oil he used and he told me "any kind of 2 stroke motor oil from any gas station". lol -.- so i hope the new brand i get is quite similar or im sure ill be having problems, oh and how do i drain the fuel completely out of the tank? Edited January 16, 2009 by blaster2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragbanshee Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 Good idea to drain the tank, never mix 2 different oils, I did that with my 1st banshee and it didn't go over so well. Take the hose off your tank petcock or your carburators T and use that hose or another to drain, use the reserve side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigels_world Posted January 17, 2009 Report Share Posted January 17, 2009 When you buy a filter I would strongly recommend something OTHER THAN the stock setup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKheathen Posted January 17, 2009 Report Share Posted January 17, 2009 to keep from mixin the slides up, use the dots to line up with the windows, and when they're in the right carb, the 45 degree recess on the bottom of the slide would point to the outside of the bike. best to slide thm in when the carb is level, because the needle can swing back and forth, and miss the hole. make sure not to mix anu parts up from right to left Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark101180 Posted January 17, 2009 Report Share Posted January 17, 2009 if you are gunn take the bowl off and you are as much of a dueche bag as you say DO NOT TOUCH THE FLOATS OR ANYTHING THEY ARE CONNECTED TO. if you accidently bend any of that stuff you will either 1 not get any fuel to ur carbs or 2 you will flood the carbs and gas will run out the over flows like a faucet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKheathen Posted January 17, 2009 Report Share Posted January 17, 2009 (edited) not to argue or anything, but that does bring up a point that you probably should check the float height while y0u're in there, and be carefull, the overflow tube sticks from the bottom of the bowl, diagonally through the middle of the floats. Edited January 17, 2009 by AKheathen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blaster2006 Posted January 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2009 just came back, got a new stock foam filter, i put it on, same problem but it occurs less, i got ready 32:1 mixture using yamalube 2R i just bought, but now i need to just drain the tank. so at this point it could be the gas or the dirty carbs problem, or possible an intake leak, which i highly doubt. Im trying now to remove the fuel petcock to where it connects to the T, to rain the fuel, but its damn hard lol. if i replaced the fuel and its still bad, im gonna check and clean the carbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.J. Posted January 17, 2009 Report Share Posted January 17, 2009 Airbox lid on or off? The lid must be on with a stock filter as it holds the filter in place. After looking at the previous filter, I definitely recommend you clean and check the carbs. Here's BenBB's jetting FAQ, I suggest you read up some... BenBB's Jetting FAQ Let us know what main jets are in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blaster2006 Posted January 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2009 (edited) Airbox lid on or off? The lid must be on with a stock filter as it holds the filter in place. After looking at the previous filter, I definitely recommend you clean and check the carbs. Here's BenBB's jetting FAQ, I suggest you read up some... BenBB's Jetting FAQ Let us know what main jets are in there. yeah i read that jetting FAQ. i think its the fuel now, i hope it is so i wont have to be cleaning out the carbs. because when i asked the owner what brand of oil he is using to premix he told me "any oil at any gas station" so im thinking he maybe got 2 different brands etc and they mixed and the fuel is bad. so im guessing when it runs with "alot of air" at random its because of lean mixture at some points from bad and mixed oil. hope than when i change the fuel she will run fine Edited January 17, 2009 by blaster2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.J. Posted January 17, 2009 Report Share Posted January 17, 2009 Dude, this is getting a tad annoying... I'll ask again, for the last time Is the airbox lid on or is it off? It should be on if you are using the stock filter. Is the filter oiled or is it dry? It should be oiled. After looking at the previous filter, I definitely recommend you clean and check the carbs. A properly jetted stock banshee when ridden for the 1st time will pull hard and put a HUGE grin on your face, check the carbs and the reeds, it will be worth it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#1banshee Posted January 17, 2009 Report Share Posted January 17, 2009 :yelrotflmao: :shrug: Dude, this is getting a tad annoying... I'll ask again, for the last time Is the airbox lid on or is it off? It should be on if you are using the stock filter. Is the filter oiled or is it dry? It should be oiled. After looking at the previous filter, I definitely recommend you clean and check the carbs. A properly jetted stock banshee when ridden for the 1st time will pull hard and put a HUGE grin on your face, check the carbs and the reeds, it will be worth it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollinRhino Posted January 17, 2009 Report Share Posted January 17, 2009 Funniest thread I've seen since the CDI relocation brawl! :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blaster2006 Posted January 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2009 Funniest thread I've seen since the CDI relocation brawl! :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: new filter is oiled and there IS a lid ofc. just has no snorkle. i put my new gas in addition to the old gas ( there was very little left), and i found it impossible to remove the fuel petcock from the T, and i thought even if i did remove it would be as hard to put back on. shee runs much better now, and almost never has that air problem, it came maybe 2 times in my 45 min ride today. all was good and the engine was not smoking lol. gonna ride right now for 15 mins, ill tell you guys how it go's after some time if shees not perfect im gonna clean the carbs out for sure. thanks alot for your help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blaster2006 Posted January 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2009 (edited) gah...ok... i rode it just now again.. and this is mostly what im noticing. when i just fire it up, it still has that "extra air" sound, and i have to keep revving it so it can rev high, if i leave it and not rev it like dies off and you can hear massive amounts of air, then i rev you still hear the loud air throaty noise then normal high revving sound without loads of air. i rode it around for 15 mins, then when i put it back in my garage it idled fine at normal sound and no super lean air throaty noise that sounds like its gonna die out. its fine but thats when its like heated up. now all thats left of what you guys told me is carb cleaning. and yes i do have a foam filter, brand new and no leaks from the airbox at all. so knowing that there is no air leaks, and we have this restrictive air filter, i dont understand, even if the carb is dirty, how does that extra air come and from where? please note that the possibility of the problem being dirty or bad oil mix or fuel is not yet canceled out as a factor or a problem that it could be causing. i added new 32:1 premix with yamalub 2R, on top of the very little remaining fuel he had, because that damn petcock would not get out of place so from all this info, could it be an air leak? is there a way to find out if maybe its only coming from 1 carb and not the other possibly? thanks. Edited January 17, 2009 by blaster2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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