05.Banshee.SE Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 Here's my current setup: 2005 Banshee Special Edition -K&N Pods -Stock Carbs (w/o TORS) -Stock Jugs -Ported Reed Cages (stock) w/ Carbon Fiber Petals -Pro Design Coolhead w/ 21cc domes -Toomey T5s -Jetting for sea level -Misc. shit, like E-brake block off. Basically...what all should I do to at least even be considered a good dragger? It will be 1/8th mile asphalt. I was thinking: HJR dune or drag port, carbs reccommended by Kevin, smaller domes, crank (4 mil), new tires and rims of course for asphalt, cut the fenders... What would be a good setup to shoot for from here? It wouldn't happen for a while, need to save up the cash first. I don't want to spend to much, and I might keep it as a mild dragger, in case I want to run in some WOT trails from time to time. (So I think cub would be outta the question?) I'd like to be in the 7s at least in the 1/8th. Most people talk shit about quads out at the track, and I want to show them these puppies can cook...and eating some Hondas, SRT4s and shit along the way would be great. :biggrin: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
278 Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 Actually from what alot of the other m,embers are saying from similar posts a 421 cub wouldn't be to bad if it's mostly drag with some WOT trails. BTW how'd those reed cages work out for ya man? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05.Banshee.SE Posted January 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 I'm running stock ported ones I got off someone on here, and they are rough as hell! I never actually finished porting my stockers yet, need to go find a dremel kit. I got tired of using the file, LOL. But I have more time on my hands, so maybe I'll go finish them. Here's my plans: No cub (ruled that out for now, to much money, will do it in the future maybe.) I want: -4 mil 115 -Drag or Dune HJR port -17-19cc domes -Race fuel -Wheelie bar -Hoosiers, etc. -Carbs (Reccommend anything you see fit.) a) When I rebuild, what should I bore it out too (will be running 795 pistons.) What's the difference between big bore and small bore motor wise? c) Does boring it change the ccs? For example, making it a 383cc or whatever. (If so, what are the different levels?) Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2slow350 Posted January 18, 2009 Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 Your list looks pretty good. I would recommend some inframe CPI's or maybe shearer's since going with stock cylinders. You also may want to look into getting an override. Jmo. I also believe you don't always have to cub in order to compete. I've seen some pretty fast stockers, granted you could of paid for some cubs for the money.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted January 18, 2009 Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 You're forgetting a better clutch, billet basket, override and lockup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowbuckracing Posted January 18, 2009 Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 Save your money..A 4 mill guy will be stepping up to a bigger motor and selling his set up...Thats if your trying to save money...If you want new stuff then just buy a part at a time and build it over the year,you can also put a wheelie bar,tires,and go drag it stock...its till fun!If you are bracket racing then your all good,just be consistent.Ive seen the biggest turds win bracket racing!!!good luck and have fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05.Banshee.SE Posted January 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 What bore over is required to run 68mm? (10, 20, whatever.) What + swinger is still good for trails (I want to be able to roost sideways around sharp turns if I do trail it, but I want to minimize wheelies on the asphalt)? Do you guys find + a arms and axles good or bad for dragging? EDIT- I will be racing for fun too. I might not be 100% asphalt drag, but either way I want straight line to be my best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 What bore over is required to run 68mm? (10, 20, whatever.) You're not doing that on stock cylinders. You have to get big bore sleeves installed...and at that point, In my opinion, it's not worth it. I'd rather spend the money on a 4 mil crank setup and porting than big bore sleeves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05.Banshee.SE Posted January 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 You're not doing that on stock cylinders. You have to get big bore sleeves installed...and at that point, In my opinion, it's not worth it.I'd rather spend the money on a 4 mil crank setup and porting than big bore sleeves. Hmmm...alright. I edited it and threw a few more questions in there. I need a rebuild, so that has to be in there... -Rebuild, long rod, 795 pistons, HJR porting, carbs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 I'm going to put this as delicate as I can. You want to bake your cake and eat it too. Build a dune bike...it'll be quick for drags but still trail ok. You will never have a great trail bike be a great drag bike, and vice versa... Talk to Kevin @ HJR. He knows how to setup his bikes, what his motors like, etc. All you normally get is opinion on how to set things up...talk to your builder (HJR) and follow HIS advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05.Banshee.SE Posted January 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 I'm going to put this as delicate as I can. You want to bake your cake and eat it too. Build a dune bike...it'll be quick for drags but still trail ok. You will never have a great trail bike be a great drag bike, and vice versa... Talk to Kevin @ HJR. He knows how to setup his bikes, what his motors like, etc. All you normally get is opinion on how to set things up...talk to your builder (HJR) and follow HIS advice. Yeah, I understand what you mean. Here's how I looked at it: Right now it's a trail quad, and I ride that thing all the time. Unfortunately, gas, oil, wear and tear is not cheap. I figured if I built it into a drag bike, made a few passes a night, and raced only 2 or 3 times a month, I'd get more motor life, and spend less in the long run. If I stay mostly trail riding, I'm going to be dumping tons of money in suspension work too. Not to mention the destruction trail riding causes. I thought I'd spend less getting into light dragging. I think a dune bike would be more mild though, and then I could have the best of both worlds. That way I could transfer between the two if I wanted. Thanks man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 Drag bike and longevity/long life don't belong in the same sentence...LOL. Good luck.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05.Banshee.SE Posted January 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 Drag bike and longevity/long life don't belong in the same sentence...LOL.Good luck.. How many passes do you think you get out of a motor? (1/8th mile, race fuel, 4 mil drag ported 795 pistons ish set up) Hell, maybe the light dragging I was doing is probably what caused this compression to drop so fast, and not the trail riding, lol! I only hit the track about 4 times, but made a number of passes each trip... between that and a heavy thumb, I think that's what did her in compression wise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 I had hundreds and hundreds of passes on my last motor. I ate one piston because I leaned out the methanol too much. Luckily, it ONLY cost me a piston. Other than electrical issues (SHITTY Ricky Stator parts) my bike was still running and running well when I took it apart. After two years, it was due for porting and a freshened up top end. Some guys make 2 or 3 passes and pop something... It's a combo of setup, tuning....AND LUCK. There is no given.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05.Banshee.SE Posted January 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 http://www.bansheehq.com/forums/index.php?...t=0#entry929593 I made another post here. If you can have some input on there, I think you're very knowledgeable and I'd like your advice sir. I think the 100% dragging thing might not be for me right now. If you have any input on the other one, that'd be great, but don't worry about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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