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BANSHEE problem, what jet is wrong?


blaster2006

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heya, as i posted in my topic on general shee discussion, i went and saw another banshee today, as im really gonna buy one soon. this was the best from allll the shees ive seen, other than this slight problem:

 

im gonna try and explain this as well as i can...

the shee was ... it seemed good... took 2 kicks to fire it up... i rode it, everything was mint, other than

in 1st and sometimes 2nd gear, it sometimes like, turns off, i then quickly push the throttle in ( after it turns off), nothing happens for 1 second... (even after i pushed it in) then it quickly like jumps and pulls and turns back on... now, i did not notice it on 3rd gear +, but come to think about it, im thinking now its an RPM problem, i think its not on slow etc, but on low RPM's is when it turns off, its just cause when your in 3rd gear and above, you usually tend to stay at a good high RPM, even if the throttle is at like only 1/4 etc.

if you understand what im trying to say. so if i had to guess its an RPM problem, and not actually jetting. on low RPMS or throttle, on 1st gear and sometimes 2nd like i said it turns off.. then fires back on..

funny enough, leave it alone to idle, it idles perfectly too.

 

 

oh and, one thing is, if this might help, he is leaving it in his garage, and he isnt riding it, he had it there for maybe 1-2 months not riding it, with the fuel petcock on ON. just to let you guys know, cause i heard thats bad for plugs or something, if you keep the fuel petcock on ON and leave it for a long time?

 

my questions:

 

-is it a jetting or RPM/ engine problem ( my guess RPM).

 

- if its true that it turns off on low RPMS, then fires back on etc, what kind of a problem am i looking at? maybe this "small" problem is why he is selling it. like i said though, it runs mint on low/mid - high rpms, so, whats the problem? and if any idea, how much would it cost to fix approx?

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Do you have the Tors hooked up? If so, get rid of it. Just unplug it for now, then get the removal kit.

 

the tors is on, when you mean unplug it for now, meaning that black box, where theres a post about it? and just cut the wires?

 

i dont see how it can be the tors, honestly, i mean, all it does is limit RPM if parking break is on?? i dont see why everyone fusses about it.

 

but anyway, back to my main point, by saying "unplugging" meaning that black little box?

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Tors are notorious for malfunctioning. Yes it is a rev limiter, but it is low end technology from the 80's. It sucks.

 

If it was doing like you said and it was turning off, this is electrical. So I would point to the Tors. Jetting is more of an idle, backfiring, poor performance at low and high end, bogging, ext...but not really shutting the bike down and turning off.

 

My guess, you said he sprays down the motor with WD40. This is not a big deal b/c it helps with keeping it clean, however, if he sprayed it down around the carbs, and it has been sitting for 2 months, WD40 could have gotten into the tors and along with dust and it is gumming up. It is a little electrical button with a spring on it and easily sticks.

 

On top of the tors, they have 2 white male/female box plugs hooking it up to the harness. you can unplug both.

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Tors are notorious for malfunctioning. Yes it is a rev limiter, but it is low end technology from the 80's. It sucks.

 

If it was doing like you said and it was turning off, this is electrical. So I would point to the Tors. Jetting is more of an idle, backfiring, poor performance at low and high end, bogging, ext...but not really shutting the bike down and turning off.

 

My guess, you said he sprays down the motor with WD40. This is not a big deal b/c it helps with keeping it clean, however, if he sprayed it down around the carbs, and it has been sitting for 2 months, WD40 could have gotten into the tors and along with dust and it is gumming up. It is a little electrical button with a spring on it and easily sticks.

 

On top of the tors, they have 2 white male/female box plugs hooking it up to the harness. you can unplug both.

I had the same problem with my bike and it was the TORS, just unplug everything that has to do with the TORS, and sync the carbs, but if it was me I would try to get the bike cheaper cause there's something wrong with it and then unplug the tors and sync the carbs at home, I'm pretty sure that's the problem.

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i so hope your right m8.

 

he wants exactly $3,700, ill try and get it for 3500 ish.

 

and he also has a whole set of BRAND NEW aftermaket parts which are as follows:

 

Toomey t5 full system, K&N 2 into 1 air filter, v force 3 reeds, adjustable timing plate ( gonna be impossible to install), and carbon fibre handguards, and 260 mains lol.

 

he has receipts, that he payed 1,100. and he wants 1k for them lol.... cause they are "brand new" lol.

 

ill try and make a good deal for the quad and parts, ill offer $4,400. hope he accepts.

 

AND i HOPE that, really hope, that i can fix this problem

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you do you think it will be hard to install the timing plate, and what year is this thing, that seems like alot for what your getting, the after market parts should be included in the $3500 price then that would be a good deal

 

... where i live prices are diffferent lol

 

like i mentioned, i sold my blaster for $2,200 it was only piped + V-force, it was an 06, aswell as the shee its an 06 model btw.

 

i called him now, he said $3700 firm stock. btw it has maxxis tires and nerfs :P so not that stock.

 

and he will drop it off, i better decide quick, i got 1 hour from when i posted this. tomorow he is travelling.

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can someone also link me a post , of have to remove that TORS box... not the actually huge bulky thing on top of the carb, just the thing that disables it...?

 

its really easy right? cmon guys i need tips and answers.. im gonna buy it soon most probably

 

ok, i told the guy to come over, hes on his way.

 

so i bought it :P for $3,700, im gonna need you guys, to help me remove that damn tors and get ride of the problem, and lol, he told me he is mixing at 20:1 ratio, how can i safely change it to 32:1? i just add 32:1 premix to it and im fine from there?

thanks....

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you can mix it 40:1 if you use good oil, yamalube at 32:1, thats not bad for an 06, did you buy the pipes and reeds? make sure you check the carbs and see if they are sync, to unplug the tors just unplug the little black box that is located under the tank by the coil, i would suggest you clean the carbs also, since you said that it has been sitting for the last couple months that may be part of the problem with it shutting off on you

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i know that connected to the tors, there is like a fat wire connected, with im guessing about 3 wires in it, connected to the tors on my old blaster, i just cut all of those wires off your telling me?, i thought those wires had to do with ignition etc..., so for the banshee i cut them from both the carbs off?

 

and no i ddnt get the reeds or pipe, bought it stock, with rear tires spacers ( need to remove, so it fits in my garage.. grr... need to buy the stock bolts too... cause the bolts on are longer to fit the spacers) and it has maxxis tires and unknwn brand nerfs.

 

i ddnt buy the aftermarkets mainly cause he wanted as much as he paid for them since they are "brand new".

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