dragbanshee Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 "Kwik Shift" Kit The Kwik Shift kit makes hard shifting and missed shifts a thing of the past. By interrupting engine power for a split second, our kit allows faster and more accurate shifting without letting off the throttle or pulling the clutch! After all, when the clutch is in, the clock is still ticking. Our kits are custom engineered for each bike and require only minimal wiring experience. Also includes a bypass switch for normal operation. We also designed this low profile kit to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2001Stroker Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 That's what shifters on boats use, because they don't have a clutch. I think you'd be wasting your money with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragbanshee Posted December 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 That's what shifters on boats use, because they don't have a clutch. I think you'd be wasting your money with that. Just wondering if it really worked or not, never heard anyone talking about it, must not be to popular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05.Banshee.SE Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 Never seen it, never heard of it, don't know what it's going to do lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2001Stroker Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 Just wondering if it really worked or not, never heard anyone talking about it, must not be to popular. I've only seen them on boats. They kill the spark for a fraction of a second, when you put it in gear. You never notice it. The reason behind it, is to release pressure on the transmission gears, so it will go into gear easy. They only need them since they don't have a clutch. If they didn't have them, it would be really hard to get into gear, and would grind the gears. Never seen it, never heard of it, don't know what it's going to do lol. Then, why did you reply? :ermm: :shoothead: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05.Banshee.SE Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 Then, why did you reply? :ermm: :shoothead: If you have never heard of it, there's a reason why. And when I said I dont know what its going to do, I meant I don't see what it is going to improve (do.) IE, not worth it. I would have said he was wasting his money, but you did. So x2 then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regalrocket Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 If you have never heard of it, there's a reason why. And when I said I dont know what its going to do, I meant I don't see what it is going to improve (do.) IE, not worth it. I would have said he was wasting his money, but you did. So x2 then. Prostock drag bikes use them along with air shifters. The concept is a solid one. No different than momentarily letting off the gas on an old 4 speed, then getting right back into it to "break" the mesh of the trans gears so you can power shift. I have not used this particular box, but I'm willing to bet it would work good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05.Banshee.SE Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 Prostock drag bikes use them along with air shifters. The concept is a solid one. No different than momentarily letting off the gas on an old 4 speed, then getting right back into it to "break" the mesh of the trans gears so you can power shift. I have not used this particular box, but I'm willing to bet it would work good. Wouldn't it be more worthwhile to re-engineer the pneumatic shifters for the bikes? From what I have seen, those look to be easier to deal with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regalrocket Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 (edited) Wouldn't it be more worthwhile to re-engineer the pneumatic shifters for the bikes? From what I have seen, those look to be easier to deal with. Really, why have a CDI box when you can have mechanical flyweights for timing? The air shifters work great. But do you want to just up the pressure of the shifter to move the gears, or would you like to use 1/10th of the force for a air shifter only setup with the simple addition of an interupter box. Prostock teams have all the money in the world to make cool shit. They did the R&D and decided that this was a great way to shift gears very very fast. This is a very simple box, it just cuts the ignition pulses out for a 1/100th of a second to cause a slight crank deceleration that will take the tension off the gears. They slide like butter when you do that. Its the same thing you do with the clutch and throttle when you change gears, but this is timed perfectly, and works every time. One thing you learn in the racing world, is that its easier to make an electronic box to do things, than it is to make an elaborate mechanical setup. Mechanical stuff wears out, and over time tolerance change. Electronics, if working proplerly, will do the exact same thing from the day it was built until the day it fails. No tolerance slipping, timing sloppiness and so forth. Edited December 14, 2008 by regalrocket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheerider1026 Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 looks like i will be giving it a try.. i personally talked to mull engineering about this box. he said it works awesome.. its the perfect thing for someone that likes to rec ride and occasionally drag race.. mite give it a try on my cub motor bike, its a pain in the ass to shift when racing sometimes.. it basically unloads the gears for a millisecond to allow a easy shift.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2001Stroker Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 It's probably a pain in the ass to shift because you have worn out parts. A transmission with good parts, shifts like a dream. You might consider checking that first, before you go breaking shit, and spending unneccessary money. Just a thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheerider1026 Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 no, under normal riding it shifts just fine!! just under WOT its hard to shift,,,.. normal for a cub motor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2001Stroker Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 no, under normal riding it shifts just fine!! just under WOT its hard to shift,,,.. normal for a cub motor. I'm confused. What does a cub motor have to do with the way your transmission shifts? When you pull the clutch in, it should release the tension on the gears. Or, do you have an override? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheerider1026 Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 no overide.. its just the cubs put out a lot of power, ptting more pressure on the transmission, which in turns makes shifting a lot harder when drag racing.. its a new build so i know its not the tranny.. u gotta be good on the clutch to make your shifts with this motor. it revs fast.. would be easier to use this "stutter box" and forget the clutching and just shift.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2001Stroker Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 Ok. It still doesn't make sense to me. How much power your engine produces shouldn't have any effect on how hard your transmission shifts. Unless, something got bent, or worn out from the excessive amounts of power. I've never heard anyone else complain about this problem with cubs. I'm getting ready to start building a 10mil cub. Hope I don't have this same problem. :ermm: Anybody else had this problem with a cub? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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