laidout20 Posted December 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 thanks for the help im going to see if i an get out there this week and take the carbs off and look. ill let you knwo what i find out. how do i tell if the bowls are switched? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo_69 Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 you might want to check the filter on the fuel pingel. just a couple screws to be sure that those filters aren't plugged with any crap. :thumbsup: Oh welcome to the HQ!!!!!!!!!!! :biggrin: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NitroTate Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 thanks for the help im going to see if i an get out there this week and take the carbs off and look. ill let you knwo what i find out. how do i tell if the bowls are switched? That particular topic has always been a little confusing to me too but from what I've heard (stock) you have one bowl with a brass tube inside and the other does not. Hopefully someone else will chime in because BOTH of my carbs have the tube and it's ran fine for years...?? :shrug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddleboy Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 just do one at a time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laidout20 Posted December 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 i guess im a little confused right now anyway......it ran fine up until a couple weeks ago. then i noticed there wasnt as much power and the exhaust wasnt coming out as strong on the right side. thats when i had the carbs cleaned... the only thing i think will answer my question right now is doing a compression test which i should have done before i pulled the head off... so im going to try and get a compression tester by the end of the week. because i dont think it has anything to do with the jets or reeds or any of that right now.....i could be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddleboy Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 i guess im a little confused right now anyway......it ran fine up until a couple weeks ago. then i noticed there wasnt as much power and the exhaust wasnt coming out as strong on the right side. thats when i had the carbs cleaned... the only thing i think will answer my question right now is doing a compression test which i should have done before i pulled the head off... so im going to try and get a compression tester by the end of the week. because i dont think it has anything to do with the jets or reeds or any of that right now.....i could be wrong. if you never changed your jetting from riding all summer then your jetting is for sure a reason why it runs like shit. i'm not saying to not do a compresion test but if it wasnt changed i would do that before digging into anything else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 doubt it is compression either if the pistons/cylinders looked good. Sounds like fuel prob. Pull one of the fuel lines off the carb and open the petcock and see if the fuel flows. If it doesn't check for inline filter clogged or petcock filters clogged. If it does ........... You said it is stock. Probably the fuel lines are original too. It is possible for some of the rubber to erode out of the inside of the fuel line and clog up the needle and seat as well. Especially with all that oxygenated fuel you get at the pump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NitroTate Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 yeah a compression test is an easy way to ensure things are still good or not but keep in mind, carbs can and do fall out of sync frequently so that, the choke tube, and the carb slides in the correct sides are likely candidates for the fact that it won't even start now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laidout20 Posted December 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 a bit of an update. just did a compression test and both cylinders are right around 100 psi after a few kicks. now i pulled the airbox back out to look at the carbs. they seem "synced" to me and the beveled side of the slide is pointing towards the air box. they are also both getting gas. i did forget to connect the choke tube so i did that. would the "reeds" have anything to do with the problem? i guess i dont understand what they do or how to see if they are the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtfreak Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 check to see if both spark plugs have good fire,maybe even put some new ones in.if you can spray into the carbs and it will run off that means you are not getting fuel to the combustion chamber one way or the other from the carbs.you say the carbs are getting fuel,check to see if there is any fuel in the float bowls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NitroTate Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 a bit of an update. just did a compression test and both cylinders are right around 100 psi after a few kicks. now i pulled the airbox back out to look at the carbs. they seem "synced" to me and the beveled side of the slide is pointing towards the air box. they are also both getting gas. i did forget to connect the choke tube so i did that. would the "reeds" have anything to do with the problem? i guess i dont understand what they do or how to see if they are the problem. Ok so your compression is ok even though it doesn't sound like you did it correctly, you need to continue to kick it until the needle stops moving and you also need to hold it at full throttle the whole time you are kicking. Besides that, yes your reeds could have something to do with it also, if you want, pull them out and make sure they are not damaged in any way and also make sure they sit flat against the reed cages. If they are gapped real bad then that can be a small factor also. You said the choke tube was disconnected... that could be it right there though. Not having the choke tube connected make them nearly impossible to start and even if they do they run like crap. Did you try it after connecting the tube? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laidout20 Posted December 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 well seem to have got it fixed..... im not sure what it was but now its running strong on both cylinders. starts right up since i hooked the choke tube back up haha. im anxious to ride it now! thanks for all the backup im sure ill be back for more help. now i can start working on my truck again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollinRhino Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 Make sure you use Cold rated two cycle oil in your mix. Regular oil can break down and cause a whole lot of starting and running issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laidout20 Posted December 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 ive been mixing 40:1 with klotz benol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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