banshee332 Posted November 30, 2008 Report Share Posted November 30, 2008 Could'nt you just remove the bottle to run in the other classes. Just cap the line off and run it. I dont know thats the way it has worked at all the tracks I have been to. I could but thats a big pain to do. when you get down to the finals at the end of the night you run your first class that you cant run nos in then about 5-10mins after that you run your second class. Thats just not enough time... Plus I have always held my own in the 2 class's with the cub, but after my motor the next size up motor is a 540 t-rex and goes all the way up to a triple cylinder dm. So I just as well go bigger and run all motor, a few of them spary in those spary in the one class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowblueshee2 Posted November 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2008 Maybe its just me, but why would you even consider staying with the stock cases if you are going to build that much motor? If you are going to spend 600+/- for mods to the stocker, you could spend an additional grand/1200 and have the billet cases. Im not saying money is no object, but if the motor is already in the range of 8K+ whats another G. Plus you can get it windowed so you can change shift forks. Just doesn't make sense to stay stock. Or am i missing something? As far as power goes, didn't Mccoys DMX do like 87MPH up sand mountain?? Thats nuts That is just the thing I want to make some big power at the most affordable price. That is why I will only go with a 10 mill stroke and stay with the stock cases. If I had more money I would go with billet cases and probably an 18 mill dmx, but that just isn't practical for me. I just have a goal of taking a heavy bike in a standard frame into the 3's. We will see ain't gonna be easy or cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolguyson Posted December 1, 2008 Report Share Posted December 1, 2008 As far as power goes, didn't Mccoys DMX do like 87MPH up sand mountain?? Thats nuts 92 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberneck Posted December 1, 2008 Report Share Posted December 1, 2008 Dave he said 600 plus 1200 But thats still on the low side.. I could add a 20-30 on the cub but my track's rules are dumb and I could only run the one class. Plus I like making power all motor.lol Exactly, there was a link on here a while back i think that had the billet cases at 1899 if i remember. So for an ADDITIONAL grand to 1200 give or take you have the billets. I guess my point was missed that if you are spending that much money on a motor, i cant see an additional grand holding you back especially concidering some of the benefits of the billet cases. maybe its just me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberneck Posted December 1, 2008 Report Share Posted December 1, 2008 92 Thats damn crazy. I dont have the balls to go that fast on the flat asphalt let alone up a rutted up sand hill. Takes a special bike and rider :cool: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolguyson Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 Thats damn crazy. I dont have the balls to go that fast on the flat asphalt let alone up a rutted up sand hill. Takes a special bike and rider :cool: It wasn't too whooped out that day, but it did have a pretty hairy "jump" right around shut down time. I agree, billet cases are really the only way to go. They are about 15lbs heavier, but the benefits of them FAR outweigh the weight. You can change your shift forks on the fly (with a billet tranny this is a MUST because they get eaten up fast), plus you have the 8mm case bolts, and you can even get away without running a bearing support if you don't want to. I had 3 or 4 threads mysteriously break off on the output side of my billet Robinson tranny (which he wouldn't stand behind btw) on the first pass at AVI and I had to take the bearing support off of it to get a nut on the counter sprocket. I was surprised that the cases held, I was damn impressed. More then I can say about my two thousand dollar transmission... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberneck Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 It wasn't too whooped out that day, but it did have a pretty hairy "jump" right around shut down time. I agree, billet cases are really the only way to go. They are about 15lbs heavier, but the benefits of them FAR outweigh the weight. You can change your shift forks on the fly (with a billet tranny this is a MUST because they get eaten up fast), plus you have the 8mm case bolts, and you can even get away without running a bearing support if you don't want to. I had 3 or 4 threads mysteriously break off on the output side of my billet Robinson tranny (which he wouldn't stand behind btw) on the first pass at AVI and I had to take the bearing support off of it to get a nut on the counter sprocket. I was surprised that the cases held, I was damn impressed. More then I can say about my two thousand dollar transmission... Oof, ouch, that hurts. Why wouldn't he stand behind it? That doesn't seem like an issue that could be the result of abuse i would think, unless you got super crazy with an impact or something. I would think he could look at the fracture and be able to tell that. I blew apart an billet injector tip on my hot rod cummins. They were able to look at the broken tip under magnification and could tell that there was an impurity in the original blank that caused the failure. My guess is the same thing caused your problem. Oh well what do they always say. "no warranty on racing parts" still sucks though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRed350x Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 I don't think I could go with the twister after watching mccoy's 10 mill dm on youtube wax lc performance's 20 mill twister. Anyhow I would like to stay with standard cases to save a little money. Plus I don't think twister offers a 78mill motor in a 10 mill stroke. LOL, you might want to call and talk to lynn and hear the truth behind the videos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRed350x Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 Thats damn crazy. I dont have the balls to go that fast on the flat asphalt let alone up a rutted up sand hill. Takes a special bike and rider :cool: I hit high 80's on my 612 at the mountain. :biggrin: I was shaking like a little girl when i got to the top, but I did it. LOL The bike tried to walk under me like what dirt bikes do in sand. That's a creepy feeling going that fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 I don't think I could go with the twister after watching mccoy's 10 mill dm on youtube wax lc performance's 20 mill twister. Anyhow I would like to stay with standard cases to save a little money. Plus I don't think twister offers a 78mill motor in a 10 mill stroke. There is a story behind that.... A well built 10 mil cub with a light rider will do 80's up Sand Mountain...all about the setup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave I. Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 im curious to hear the HQ version of the twister vs DM story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banshee332 Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 im curious to hear the HQ version of the twister vs DM story. This what I know. Lynn was having jetting issues or something like that then once he got her straightend out the 10mill was no where to be found... Thats what I heard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blewbyu Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 im curious to hear the HQ version of the twister vs DM story. Well Dave to give you some thought, there are a couple guys that we race with that have 10dms and another buddy that has a 14 mini and they seem to be toe to toe every time. This is at the dunes also. As far as at the track another buddy that we race with has a 10dm in a ridgid and he has made a couple 3.5 passes on it and he is around 190-200lbs, and our tracks seem slower up here compared to others. And the suspended 14 mini and the other suspended 10dm have both seen 3.8s possble 3.7s Im not 100%. So if I had to say stroke for stroke, since the mini is only 76.5 bore (that one) versus the 78 bore. The DM seems to Dominate. Just my .02. No one bust my balls! lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bada450r Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 im curious to hear the HQ version of the twister vs DM story. not to burst anyones bubble dave and not to say one builder is better than the other but i have seen your bike run and you have seen my bike run i dont think your bike was set up 100 percent when we raced but i know your bike is just as fast as mine.as far as the 10 mil vs the 20 i have seen lynns 20 run in person and there is no way a 10 mil of any kind would be within 10 bike leights of it.....not saying nate doesnt build a good motor as is aobious with your bike.if that bike the 10mil dm would have been a 20 than maybe i would say that there was a possibility.....imo.....mean while old friend i will have my 10 mil twister out in pismo next time your there so we can do some good old fashion racing..........from what i understand you had your wheely problem resolved so it should be really intresting next time....good times baby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave I. Posted December 20, 2008 Report Share Posted December 20, 2008 No bubble to burst here Pablo, unless you are talking about my gut. I honestly dont care what happens in Utah to two people I dont know, just interested to here what other people from thousands of miles away from Utah know about that race. You know how it goes on the internet. As far as us racing again Pablo, we will still be racing 10mils, but I dont think either of them will be the same size as they were the first time LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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