banshee#44 Posted November 20, 2008 Report Posted November 20, 2008 i was wondering because i want to install a pair on my banshee Quote
TNTS355 Posted November 20, 2008 Report Posted November 20, 2008 i was wondering because i want to install a pair on my banshee I have a set on mine and they work great. I did have them on my stock a arms. You have to do a little cutting and grinding. I got a set of +2+1 a arms and they work well on them also. Quote
AKheathen Posted November 22, 2008 Report Posted November 22, 2008 I have a set on mine and they work great. I did have them on my stock a arms. You have to do a little cutting and grinding. I got a set of +2+1 a arms and they work well on them also. first off, your bike looks sick tnt and if you have to compress the shock to put it in, yes it does hurt the ball joints. you can fix this by bending the ends of the arms up untill the shocks drop in. make sure that the suspension travels up far enough for the shock to fully compress without binding on the ball joints. i'm installing fox clickers with remote rezzies @16.5" so i'll prolly weld up some new mounts on top and shim the stops. Quote
meatsproket Posted January 2, 2009 Report Posted January 2, 2009 I have been thinking about doing this mod (there are several threads about 450 shocks and A-arm kits here on Banshee HQ) simply due to the cost savings. You do need to grind off some metal on your stock A-arms and from what I hear you will put extra stress on the bearings. I think your best bet is to save up your money and get some Elka's or Fox floats of you want a smooth ride. First you should get a real rear skid plate as the stock one is going to be trashed in no time!! Quote
regalrocket Posted January 3, 2009 Report Posted January 3, 2009 Yes, I have installed them. I am a race car fabricator, and I know about suspension geometry, and they exceed the ball joint limits. Like it was said, if you have to compress the shock to get it in, due to the fact that the ball joints keep the arms from traveling any further, then yes they will eventully do damage. Quote
dajogejr Posted January 3, 2009 Report Posted January 3, 2009 they exceed the ball joint limits. Like it was said, if you have to compress the shock to get it in, due to the fact that the ball joints keep the arms from traveling any further, then yes they will eventully do damage. Thank you... If you want to run them for a while and in the back of the mind realize...sooner or later, you really should get aftermarket arms designed to handle more travel with better joints...fine. I just don't want everyone to run out thinking...hey, great cheap mod...then wonder why their ball joints are worn...or worse yet, broke while riding... Quote
cheeta Posted January 3, 2009 Report Posted January 3, 2009 (edited) http://www.bansheehq.com/forums/index.php?...103029&st=0 i already know what happens when you put 450 shocks on a banshee. your balljoints explode when you hit 6th gear and your bike throws you at a street sign because you where so stupid Edited January 3, 2009 by cheeta Quote
regalrocket Posted January 3, 2009 Report Posted January 3, 2009 Thank you...If you want to run them for a while and in the back of the mind realize...sooner or later, you really should get aftermarket arms designed to handle more travel with better joints...fine. I just don't want everyone to run out thinking...hey, great cheap mod...then wonder why their ball joints are worn...or worse yet, broke while riding... I have to update my stock a-arm thread, but in short I found out that the shock mounting point was just in too close to the frame on the lower arm. It pushes the wheel down probably 4 inches over stock. When the machine is on the ground with the suspension sag making the machine look only 1 in higher, its fine. But when you remove all weight, the suspension travels down way to far, and even with large aftermarket ball joints, the working range is way exceeded. On top of that, the upper arm gets closer to the shock than I am comfortable with. Really, a purpose built lower arm is what is needed that has a bend up after the shock mount point to allow for the shock to sit nice, but keep the effective suspension travel within limits. I have the shocks sitting on the shelf now, they are impressive for stock, but I cannot use them with stock arms, or even my stock style arms due to a few clearance issues. I will just have to make a different lower arm so that they work nice. Quote
FireHead Posted January 3, 2009 Report Posted January 3, 2009 Thank you...If you want to run them for a while and in the back of the mind realize...sooner or later, you really should get aftermarket arms designed to handle more travel with better joints...fine. I just don't want everyone to run out thinking...hey, great cheap mod...then wonder why their ball joints are worn...or worse yet, broke while riding... Word. If you change the angle at which the ball joints sit in relation to the arms themselves then you won't have the angle problem. However that requires more fabrication than it's worth. I should know, I just did it.............. :biggrin: Quote
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