Brooke

hey holyman, everyone has the forums set to display a different # of posts on each page, so on mine, on page 7 you were still talking about the pentagon attack being fake. and that post right there of yours proves you had no clue what went on in iraq, no to mention the gulf war. and MY point is that apparantly you think i should be doing more, so i want you to tell me what you think i should be doing. but no, you pussy out of it. thats fine. your words are baseless to me anyway, considering you have no clue about whats going on in the world. youre all hot air, and just love to push my buttons because you have some personal disdain for me, so you keep right on going, i can play along. the more you talk, the more foolish you look.

what post are you taking about?? and youve been bitching at me saying i dont do anything, so i want you to tell me what i should be doing that im not. dont pussy away from the question. and in case you havent noticed, im PROUD of all that our president has accomplished....DER. so dont tell me to take responsibility for what he's done like thats a bad thing. pay attention sweetheart.

And if that does it for you, then you've done all you can. I don't expect anything more of you than your best and apparently that's what you're doing. dont pretend you knew about it. you knew nothing about it, anyone can go back to your posts and read that. and youre skirting the issue again. what do you think i should be doing that im not? answer me, dont avoid the question.

you said you didnt know about the genocied....der. what are you, insane??? you cant remember what you say from one day to the next?? and hey, what have YOU dont to make this country a safer place? at least i care enough about the country to VOTE. what exactly do you think i should be doing to make this country safer? and what do you think i should be doing to help this country that im not doing?

role playing is fun.... err..i mean. yea, no im not looking for someone to always agree with me, i love debating with people who have other views. in fact, that has a lot to do with my learning process. you dont learn much if you surround yourself with like-minded people all the time. the thing that got me so pissed here was my feeling that all of what holyman has said is now baseless, considering he didnt even know about the genocide that went on under sadaam's rule. then when he did learn about it, all he did was skirt the issue and go on and on about totally seperate issues. and for him to imply that ive got my head buried in the sand is infuriating, considering i at least take the time to educate myself on all the issues, am passionate about them, and get off my ass to VOTE. he just bitches and moans about things he knows nothing about, then sits on his ass and does nothing about it.

And in spite of all of your "my country right or wrong" rhetoric, your butt is still plainly visible above the sand. what??

holyman, you try to hide your ignorance behind a shrowd of self-riteousness, but you arent fooling me. as far as im concerned, as soon as i found out you knew nothing about what youre talking about, everything you ramble on about means nothing. its baseless and full of hot air.

Holyman, i dont need a field trip, i OBVIOUSLY know more about whats going on in the world than you do. at least i VOTE. right there, i do more than you do to change whats going on in the world. your selfishness disgusts me, both of you.

im not even gonna waste my time. you keep on believing whatever you want, or hey, maybe try...thinking for yourself for once. try stepping back and looking at things more rationally, dont be so quick to jump on the bandwagon. you dont have to like bush, but you also dont have to blindly believe whatever negative is said about him. i at least give kerry the benefit of rational thinking, i dont believe all the right-wing extremist propaganda spread about him. but like i said, you go ahead and believe whatever you want, nothing i say is going to change your mind, just like nothing i say would change bigwills mind or holymans mind. you all crave this propaganda like its your lifeline.

screw Iraq and screw the Kurds, If they're not Americans or if I can't see em from backyard then I don't give a shit about what has happend there..... for the past 20 years. Thats the problem with our govt, we can't stay out of anyone business. I was 100% all for going to Afganastan and kickin' ass there because thats where our threat was. I don't know how we got sidetracked with this Iraq war...... but Osama and 5 million Osama Jr's are still out there and they're more pissed off at us than EVER. Brooke, do you have any plans to join the military and go to Iraq or is that for the pe'on working class only ? please, did you not read my past few posts? sadaam WAS a threat. and if we ignore whats going on in the world than what good are we? we cant turn our backs on the rest of the world. if we sit back and ignore whats going on, than you can be sure the people who hate us will be right back on our doorsteps. and no i dont have plans to go into the military, and i have a lot of respect for those who do. i resent that comment meat.

I just posted the link, I didnt say I beleived any of it, in fact I didn't even read any of it. Jeez I thought you were smarter than that Brooke. well that is a small relief. you had me scared there for a minute.

oh wow meat. im shocked that youd buy into that. i thought you were smarter than all that. you all are so sick and twisted if you think the beheadings are fake. you all have hit a new low.

i am so sick of trying to explaine to all of you the concept of "spin" and "propaganda". you all cant really be THAT naieve. as far as your resume bigwill...ever thought about how being attacked by terrorists effect many of those issues? (the deficit, stock market, bankruptcies, foreclosures etc etc). im not going to address every single item on that list, most of it is flat out false. and if you believe everything youre told, then ive got a bridge to sell you... i love how my points of reasoning for entering iraq are flat out ignored here. holyman, i didnt say youre uneducated because you dont agree with me, i said you are uneducated because you didnt have any idea about whats been going on in iraq for the past 20 years. dont skirt the issue.

you know holyman, you are extremely long-winded. i strongly believe that you dont have a grasp on the severity of what has been going on in iraq under sadaam's control. you are in severe need of some education, i suggest you start educating yourself on this issue if you decide to continue to remark on it. its really amazing that you could be so ignorant to whats going on in the world, yet have such a big mouth about it all. im not trying to be rude or mean, it just really gets under my skin. especially because, for some unknown reason, people around here seem to buy into what you say. youre blind to the reality of the world and are trying to influence others on this topic, and i find that unbelievably irresponsible. that would be like me trying to tell someone how to perform open-heart surgery on themselves. they arent aware of the technique, so i take the opportunity to inform them, knowing damn well i have no idea what im talking about.

It will be a good start,but not the best way to solve the problems goin on over there.The problem is Bush thinks that he can change that political system overnight,which in reality will take 2 decades and 2 more presidents.The problem is the next president will not put forth the effort nor attempt to pick-up where bush left off.this will become another korea or vietnam where we spent way too much money time and most important,loss of life fighting for. It will take alot more than 4 more years to change Iraqs current state of goverment and I wouldn't be surprised if the newly elected leaders are assasinated.Probably more than one of them.Some countries need to be ruled with an Iron fist.Its sad to say but its true.Too many uneducated people and religous beliefs will always plauge the way of life over there. History repeats itself and this war is looking more and more like wars of the past.Bush will not be able to get it done and it won't be his fault,He's just going to run out of time. Bush has never claimed that he will solve the problem overnight. he has said repeatedly that it will take time. and if you fear the next president wont take the time or effort to continue helping them, than vote for the person you know WILL continue the effort. and they dont need to be ruled with an iron fist. they have been oppressed (uneducated) due to that iron fist. they have spawned religious hatred because of that iron fist. if you remove the iron fist, they can finally get the education they need to help democracy work in their country. with ignorance brings the hopelessness that spawns suicide bombers and all other forms of hate and violence. freedom for them will help heal their wounds. its not just all about politics, its about life and freedom and education and hope and power for the common man. you know, years ago this same type of opposition was being shown against reagan when he wanted to fight communism. many people said it wasnt our duty to do that, and that it would be a fruitless effort...

o darling, im so so sorry holyman. i just did not realize before that you werent aware of the goings on in the world. have you heard of the gulf war? bush sr. went in to iraq back then to take care of business and force sadaam to give up his weapons so he couldnt carry out any more mass murders. many resolutions were set to end that war, and sadaam has violated 17 of them. that alone was reason enough to go into iraq. american men died for nothing if we would have let sadaam get away with breaking those resolutions set at the end of the first gulf war. and hun, we did go after osama, we broke up the taliban, and osama fled into a country that had sanctions against the u.s. entering. we are still working on getting osama, and we will get him or he'll die running, one or the other. but since we freed the afgan people, ten million people have registered to vote, 40% of whom are women. they WANT to vote, and want to be free. sadaam had the capability to manufacture WMDs, at the very least, and after 9/11 he started helping out various terrorists (like the man who was injured on the afgan killing fields and brought into baghdad for top medical treatment). sadaam was more than happy that the u.s. was attacked sucessfully. this is the man who made TWO assination attempts on bush sr. once he found a group that could be successful in hurting us, he embraced them. if we had not gone into iraq after breaking up the taliban in afganistan, iraq would have become a haven for those men, and to their great pleasure, unlike osama, sadaam already had the capabilities ready and waiting for WMDs. and the iraqi people did not want to be run in that way, the way sadaam ran the country. every single day, sadaam and his henchmen were murdering and raping their own people for just speakin ill towards sadaam. sadaam's son, who was head of their olympic team, literally killed and tortured their olympic athletes who didnt compete up to standards...the examples go on and on...my point being, the people needed desperately to be freed from sadaam and his people. and now they will be holding free elections and able to choose their own leader.

wow. im sorry..im in shock here....wow. not knowing about sadaam's atrocities is, amazing. ive never met anyone that didnt know. wow do you know, not only about the kurds, but how he treated the everyday iraqis right up until we removed him from power?

thanks guys for the thoughts. its just all so tragic. i got some more details...his buddy had just gotten a new quad, and he jumped on to try it out, was only on it for literally a couple minutes when he bit it. you just can never be too careful. and you all are right, its not just about the protective gear, its about being mature and responsible every time you ride. earlier this year i had a friend, who was wearing all his protective gear, get in a bad accident on his quad. just two seconds of bad judgement, decided to race up past his buddy on a dirt road, flipped it, was unconscious, had to be air lifted out. everyone thought for sure he was dead, but he survived....unfortunately he has permanent brain damage, and now has a hard time just doing the simple math needed at his gas station job... ride safe, and ride smart!!

the wifey...bustin his balls..

one of my old high school sweethearts is dead...on his wedding day. happened this weekend, night before his wedding at his bachelor party. http://www.courierpub.com/articles/2004/09...l_news/3atv.txt how depressing..

youre joking right? and honey, the u.s. military IS the world's legal authority.

psssh...i donno. i give up. its all so screwy. cant be too cool, but cant be too bitchy, cant give too much but cant be too greedy...dumb. i quit ...love spelled backwards is Evol....CLOSE ENOUGH!!

so far being cool has gotten me nuthin but trouble. im gonna try being a bitch THEN being cool, so guys appreciate it.

damn. why cant all guys be that cool when IM so chill about quads, and givin the hookups....