i know that there are pleanty of women out there that fit your descriptions. but not all. and definately not me. blue deuce, i dont give a shit what band youre in or how much money you have, that says nothing about what type of person you are. i dont hook up with men for money, and i know a lot of women who dont either, so its unfair for you guys to suggest that most women do. maybe you all need to take a close look at what you are doing who and where you are hanging out with that causes you to be surrounded by that type of women. if you hang with dogs youre bound to get fleas. i, as well as all of the females i know, have been royally screwed over by men, but i would never say anything like "all men beat women" or " all men want subserviant women" or "all men treat women like shit"...i choose to accept the fact that i have some responsibility in the way i allow people to treat me, as well as in what types of people i choose to surround myself with, and the places i socialize also have an effect on the types of people i encounter. i own that. maybe you all need to also.