Mr.Midnight

Its not about crashing somebody elses party, its just about havin fun and maybey getting a better showing. And yeah thier are a few fast shees that show up, but would just like to see a few more make the journey... cant blame me for tryin! Also JT MACHINING, who does your crank/rotating assembly work? Is it balanced down to a certain gram weight? And sorry if im askin to much, but when shes all done, what stroke will it be, i see the piston is custom by chance is the rod, and or crank? Sorry to pic ur brain man im starting to get motivated to build one. Wana learn what i can about em. Any other 450 builder u or any of u would recomend. I like ocp, just currious who else is out thier for wicked 450 builds..

I agree that thiers alot of factors in choosing reeds, but i didnt pull the vf2 reeds are better statement out of my ass, i know the shop who was tasked with the r and d from v force for the banshee, they chose the reed v force ended up running. And these guys swear 2s are still better also know another very big builder that says 2s all the way. Now we were talkin cubs in the 421 ish size range. I like boysen pedals as well great company, but for straight up power vf2s for smaller cubs and wildly ported 350s seems to be the tickit.we didnt chat about bigger cubs, or alky motors or what not, just my bike, and his opinion on reeds with hundreds of testing hours, ill keep runnin vf2s..

Me and my wife have rented that house as well,its really nice. We also like the cabin at discoverypoint with the quad in front of it where u pull in. We have cought salmon out of the bay its sweet thier, my favorite place on the west coast by far. Everbody on this subject is spot on thiers no need to be a fkn idiot, but that aside the law is nonsence. Leave us alone, seems like half the people on the coast are methed out, they have better shit to do than mes with dunners. Thier lazy fkn gov empoyees that do what easy like usual...

Ill try and figure out how to post pics, ive tried and says its loading then never does! The white is nice and clean though.. also JTm thats a bitchen looken fighter jet u put together, im currious in the times it will lay down at the track??

Vforce2 is the best reed made period for power. Other than custom pieces.. not 3s not4s not chariots, not ported stock, vf2s

Ive bein riding thier for 20+ years and it is hit or miss. The cops anywhere are cocksuckers! Try to make shure when u head out down the 10 mph whoop road at winnchester that u time it so thiers a few others in front and behind u guys. Safety in numbers. DO NOT FUCK AROUND ON THE TEN MPH ROAD, they sit in the bushes at the end of the sraight stretch before the road out turns left and starts to open up to the dunes. I have never bein checked but ive seen them do it. They mainly look for drinkers so if u camp hide everything as they will creep through and look for camps drinkin and watch for thier machines. Thier completly fucked in oregon.I went to st anthonys this year and everybody in the camp was drinkin and partying till 2am. Reminded me of spinreel as a kid before they paved it and ruined it. Winn bay is the best riding in my opinion but florence is a close second, all the south dunnes suck spinreel horse falls boxcar, all lame and to many cops and closed spots not to mention the whoopy accses roads that are stupid long. As far as old people bitching, those are rich people. Rich librals to be more accurate, same fucks that sell thier condos in cali and stay in thier oregon beach house in our prime riding season then bitch and donate to bullshit activist groups that shut our dunes down, then low and behold they buy the land by the closers!! Dont get me started fkn oregon librals are like cancer spreading everywhere!!!

JTmachining Thats a good lookin color, i just restored a 92 750k ninja, rare flatslide ramair modle I did frame the same color, looks like purple alluminum foil, did the rims white custom powder coat, looks like diamonds laid over white and cleared. I made it in my paint shop cpl years back in basecoat, then pc guy was able to almost replicate it. One thing i did notice is your not over paddling your 500, like 90 % of the guys in the sand, should be sweet!! Ocp is a great lil oregon shop, he did my friends rap, he still got a rediculous ass whiping from my banshee, but none the less ocp builds great machines, especialy 450s. His personal bike is way quick.. pics when done man!

JTMACHINING What do u got done to your 450? What year modle ect. What type of riding u like to do? Thinkin bout snagin a 450 for my wife and I as a fun all around bike, shees only see sand and ide like to ride some dirt this year. Ive riddin a few, my friends 480 i think he said it was, that thing was bitchen in the tight stuff, beach trails, twisties. But also i just riped on another friends kawi 450 and it was in my opinion better, not as much power just big three on it, but i really like the tig welded alluminum frame and how it was sorted out from the factory.. any feedback on 450 would be cool, thanks

Well so much for the thought, i guess we will just discuss how much banshees are junk on the "banshee" forum. Kinda sad, maybe thats why alot of the industry guys i chat with dont go on here, seems like every other post i read on here just gets hijacked by bullshit name callin and just flat nonsence thats most of the time not even topic related. Aw well, my 2 cents, for thr record, i like raptors thier a decent machine, out of everything ive riped in the sand, if i was goana go 4 stroke it would be a 450 big bore stroker set up. I would have ocp out win/bay do the engine work. Ive rode a few of those and they handle bitchen, they stop, and thier really responcesive machines. Still spendy hp to dollar but between the rap and 450 built, i prefer the 450. The raptor has alot more potential because of its displacement power wise but to me dollar per hp is the steapest outa the three. Also they flat frigin vibrate i personaly hate it, thier tall as well and i dont care for the feel of them like i do a 450, or my banshees. For what i do, dune riding i find it hard to beat the banshee yes they break yes u need not be a retard to keep them tuned and serviced but nothing runs like they do. And hp per dollar u cant beat a banshee period. Ive bean drag racing for a long time now, sbc and bbc setups mainly early camaros, on the weekends in my body shop we tune and setup for sundays race, or street race when we get some of the guys together for the midnights. That said the banshee to me is the sb1 of the atv word, not the latest and greatest but thousands of setups crazy power and cheap to build. To me i like that thiers an actual seat, fit and feal is great, they still have a touch of the 80s in them that sorta reminds me of the yz490s and cr 500s and late 80s atc250r's, maybey im just getting old, after all i still get a kick outa my 90's dirtwheels fold out of all the JD racing shee's spread across the same dunes i learned to ride in as a kid. So no i dont hate raps or anything else,just love my banshees, if they would build a hi reving twin cylinder 4 stroke say 500 to 600 cc's that was smooth like a sport bike, i would buy one in a heart beat, but until then..... again sorta wierd defending liking my banshee, on a fkn banshee forum full of sponcers that make a living building (u guessed it)= banshees. I cant remember the last time i was on the chevy forum discusing an up coming drag event or street event to go attack and i got a bunch of mopar guys on the chevy forum sayin chevys suck??? Oh wait thats cuz it doesnt happen...Wtf.. anyways i dont give 2 shits, realy just sein if anybody who rides a quick shee that never heard of the fkn event would maybe wana go and check it out and tear up a lil sand...

The raptor is a over priced vibrator that costs blood to build. Fucka raptor!!

I dont think so, were they race in the back is perfect, its wide enough for 8 to 10 machines to run, and after a hundred foot, thiers at least another 150 to 200 ft shut down. They normaly have a guy grooming the strip, at least the four fast lanes. And if the fast raptors can run so can we. I would be willing to get 5 or 6 guys together to help groom banshee lanes specifically for the handfull of bigg cc drag shees, they do it for thier big raps, and chances are at the event we would run in thier fast lanes and give em a hand grooming so our guys and the enemy, lol, can make safe clean full throttle passes.ive ran this event for a cpl years now and its cool because everybody is respectful and helps eachother out, and its not a cluster fuck like dunefest. Oh and did i mention its cheap!! To anybody thinkin about it go watch em run on youtube. Come fkn on guys i would think that thier would be guys chompin at the bit to go take down some raptors! After all those raps are whats replacing the shee in the "built" atv scene. So if we dont grab our balls back from our wives and go show the people what most of us know, wich is BANSHEES ARE STILL KING OF THE SAND FOR A REASON, then dont say shit when more and more shops get away from the shee, and thier becomes less and less parts,service, builders, events support, ect. that include banshees.. I guess i just feel like if we dont come together and make that kid thats thinkin bout getting into performance atv's want a banshee wrather than something else, then we will slowly see our market and these legendary twin 2 strokes fade into history. Fuck that lets race!!! Sorry for the rant fellas!!

I dont wana start a raptor/banshee debate on whose faster. Just wana spread the word and get some of those banshee's i know are out thier to the event, and we will let the dragstrip be the judge. If u watch the videos on youtube those raps are quick no dout about it, but thier were a few fast banshees thier taking down lots of those raps. We just need a better showing of big cc banshees, and i think seriously we can beat em at thier own event. Again it would be really fun to get a rivalry goin. And all of it supports education about the dunes and how we can all help keep them open. Its family friendly and best of all it unsantioned outlaw drag racing wich we all love. As far as fast banshees in oregon to say thier arent any is just flat nonsence. Cam at redline builds some of the fastest banshee engines in the country, ive seen 180 hp twister machines, white knuckle bikes run hard, and even eastcoast guys run cascade parts, not to mention guys like me that build our shees in our shops at home all over the NW. Oregon still has fast banshees, plenty of them along with great builders, so does washington, and norcal. All im tryin to do is get banshee people talkin and maybey turn that into some action. Dont wana make anybody mad or start a banshee bash or raptor bash, just want some like minded banshee people head out in may,and have some fun showin showin everybody that banshees still run hard out here!!

Hey guys headin to nwrr again this year and figured i would try and get together some support for some fast banshees outa the North West to show up. Its a great event, with a free bbq ( we alway donate) and awsome prizes, and all kinds of atv activities. Thing is i ride a banshee, as do most of u, and im tired of watching those stupid frickin quarvo raptors (and others) sorta hoggin the spotlight at the drags with the same 10 ta 15 piles of four stroke shit over and over. I have a wrather large group of banshee pilots heading over from my central oregon areah to have fun and hurt thier sensitive raptor egos, but we need more!! Lets chat on the HQ, and get some serious fkn banshee's together to make the journey to winchester, and show why thier still king of the sand!! We on the HQ could really get the word out and flat dominate this event on the drag strip in the back of winchester, where it all goes down. Its may 14th i believe, just google to check. If we could pull together 15 to 20 shees, ranging from 4 mill cubs on up ta at least a cpl 20 pluss cc dm's we would dominate raptor ralley. We being banshees from the HQ... This could start a really fun rivalry between nw 4 pokes, and the NW shee croud. Anyway figured ide throw it on here and see if thier are still any badasses left in the NW thst would be willing to do serious grudge racing for bragin rights, plus they film every year so do we, so thier would be unmistakable proof of takedown.... What do u guys say??