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Hey guys I need some advise on jetting my mains 02 shee Fresh build by Jeff at FAST Welded 4 mil crank 65.5 mil wiseco slugs Dune port by the man FAST/NOSS head with 23cc stroker domes Dynatek CDI set on stock curve 4* on timing plate T-5 pipes Vforce 4 reeds and billet intake with internal crossover 33mm keihin carbs K&n pods Pingel dual valve Gutted fuel cap with open vent hose 15-38 sprockets with 20" tires 45:1 amsoil dominator oil and 91 pump 1500ft elevation Ok my current jetting is 35 pilot cel needle in middle and 165 main My issue is riding in town occasional wot is fine. out of town up to 45 mph is fine cruising part throttle just under powerband. Rolling into the throttle to wot from 45 to 50ish the pipes just start smoking white colored real bad and you get a oil on fire smell not just occasional 2 stroke smoke. Last summer I torched the pistons because I sucked a carb dry and it did the same thing, smoking like this on long pulls (could get it to pull past 65 before smoking though). I talked with Jeff last fall about jetting and did a ton of chops last fall and sent him pictures and he thought 165 mains were a bit much for me and questioned why my smoke rings did not go all the way around the porcelain. They are about 1.5mm high. I have not chopped this week because I am thinking I'm severely lean. This week temps here have been high 80's and humid about 80%. I had my stock fuel valve (molded with 2 outlets) in last week when this started and I drained the tank and found some small debris partially blocking the screen maybe about 20%. I decided to put on the pingel and pull the head to verify I didn't do damage yet and all is good so far. I rode it tonite and it still smokes only from about half to wot throttle. I assembled the whole engine using a bit of Yamaha 3 bond on all gaskets and it passes the leak down test. Do you think I need bigger mains? Also comparing to everyone else's jetting specs it seems I'm way under most comparable builds on pilots but a bit above on mains and Jeff thinks the mains were a bit big too. This is making me sick I'm going to burn it up again. I'm going to meet some buddies for the weekend and can work on it there but don't wanna wrench all weekend so can whoever so still up please help out before I leave for the weekend?? Thanks!

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I've got both. The head is in good shape, has a little pitting in the dome but I ran it no problem has not been shaved down. I also have a set of DMC 916's. If ur interested pm me and I can send you pictures.

Well last nite i popped in 160 mains and at lunch i ran it 1-5 wot and plug chopped and it was lighter chocolate about 2mm tall so i threw in 162's and drove it seems to pull now havent plug chopped yet but will this weekend. So far the 162s feel better than 160 and alotta improvement over the other night with 165's

Just got ahold of jeff and he thought too i might be a little rich but since its gettin cold here i may need to go richer...i need to get a chop here hopefully over lunch break and see what it looks like...

Had same jets and setup before i blew piston last with stock untouched head with vitos head spacer kit and jeffs trail/woods port on paul turner high revs runnin at 80-90*f out...i burned piston from fuel supply issues it plug chopped good and pulled qll gears fine before....what do you think about my lack of power in the upper gears

02 Shee Fresh top end build byturns FAST 33pwks curently 165 48 1 1/2 cgl on middle Billet intake with machined crossover and vf4's Noss head with 23cc stroker domes cut by FAST 150psi after 15-20 kicks Br8es plugs at .024" stock coil moose ho stator and dynatek programmable cdi on stock curve 3 no timing on plate (0*) 65.5mm weiseco slugs fresh built by jeff with agressive dune/drag port Freshly repacked toomey t5's per jeffs recs About average of 45-55*f now 1500 elevation 250lb rider stock swinger 20" tires and 15/40 gearing Now it idles good and seems good and stong in 1-3 but 4-6 gears on highway ( its licensed) seems to not pull as hard. Gunna try a plug chop real soon but do you guys think i should bump the mains richer or leaner...pulled plugs (i know notta real chop) and they had 1 mm ring at base so general use i think im ok but i think i may wanna go leaner a couple sizes compared to the searching i did last nite but im scarred to from all the top gear bog threads some say rich or leaner. Cant get ahold of jeff this morning yet...it doesnt sputter in top gears just feels like you let up on throttle some.

Dirtdigginjoe I can see your pic but I think my intake is longer....I get the cylinders today so I'll try to post pics up tonite. By chance what is the part number for those uni pods?

Ive gotta set of both straights and angled....starwriter do you or can you possibly post sum pics or pm me and text me some?

Hey guys i was curious on how you get pods to fit right on the carb? My cylinders wont show till early next week so i cant get pics but i have stock cylinders a billet 1 peice intake and pwk33's and their almost too high and the pods hit the exhaust. I made some extensions and set em back about 4" previously but its alot hangin them back so far on the carb boots. Can a few of you post up pics of your pod setups please and maybe should i switch back to upp intakes that dont raise and set the carbs back so far?

Ok guys its been a long time but I sent everything to FAST and he straightened the crank and ported the cases and now I've been waiting one month (since he sent back the crank and cases and said 2 weeks then and 2 months total) for him to finish. I'm waiting on stroker domes and a head, and my cylinders to be bored and ported out to mid top power band with t-5's. anyone know of another builder that does just as good of work? Jeff is just so busy I'm tired of waiting hell it's already 50*f out. I need this done in a week....I knew he was busy when I sent me down but he said he's cramming for 2 sand rides common up I can't believe everyone he's rushin done has been waiting since before July!

I guess i used permatex right stuff...use it all the time at work on everything...before jeff sends the cylinders back ill ask him for a couple tubes of that...anyone know of locally bought alternatives? I used gm anerobic sealant on the case halves as it seals rock hard not gummy like cheap rtv

Ill make sure to check the crank out when i split the cases to clean it out....if the bearings are fine i suppose it wont hurt to put new seals in huh. the way it looks this crank hasnt been in there long so they should be good but ill check the bearings. what are some tips on assembly to keep this thing sealed? rtv everything both sides of gaskets and all or what? i had new gaskets and everything was properly torqued and sealed....these cant be that bad or no one would keep em on account of buring em up

Looking at these more and more im guessin i ran that carb dry....definately gunna gut the cap for sure but what do you guys think when is it time for a pingel valve? also what do you do for filters or just rely on the sock in the tank

Plug chop left cylinder pre destruction WOT Plugs after destruction left cylinder on left side obviously Meltdown in left cylinder Left Piston Left Piston again Right cylinder WOT Plug Chop pre choping