sometimes, ok most of the time, it seems like im talking to a bunch of kids. having not seen the pipes your refering to but ill take a shot in the dark anyways. likely not one section of the pipes are the same in length, diamter, angle, (except probly the section where it connects to the manifold) so they likely require different stinger diam. ive seen mikes pipes for other engines and theyre a bit longer with shallower angles than what you might typically see from someone else. he has his own methods. if some of you guys would spend less time talking, saying stupid shit, and more time reading you would be alot smarter. probly 100 books on expansion chambers. rule number one, stinger length is mostly unimportant.