compression is 130/132, new plugs 2 different sets, needles are in the middle clip, a/r screws made little difference, solvent to soak in and carb choke cleaner sprayed thru the passages, 30 pilots....switched bowl on right carb to a right carb bowl musta gotten it mixed up last time i cleaned them with another set of carbs i was robbing parts from ...heading out to clean the right carb better and spray through the passage agian and make sure the pilot is clean. just gotta go get another can of carb cleaner...i will post how everything turns out afterwards. i've been slowly bringing this shee back to life encountering every known problem along the way. much thanks to all the ppl here at banshee HQ for helping figure out all the problems. Y'all are by far the best ppl in banshee land! thanks again.