I'm with rubber on this kinda. In the end it makes no difference. All mfgs are putting out unproven shit. Some good, some bad. Let's all be realistic here and understand that all are trying to suffice the unrealistic goals of the government that is trying to make the US account for the rest of the world's short falls and brains in the carbon footprint era. All of these trucks both new and old have a market because of the grooming these mfgs are giving us. There are people like me who cannot understand or justify spending 70k on a vehicle, and then there are the Dave5.0s of the world who say fuck it and make the plunge. I'm not there YET! I bought my pickup brand new in 2004 and paid 35k out the door. I cannot wrap my head around what is so much better today that the same truck is approaching twice that. This same dollar equation is the same through all mfgs. I've driven many miles behind the wheel of all the newer brands. All have their ups, all have their downs. In the grand scheme, they are all equally junk. Pick your poison, pay the bill, and bitch like a mother fucker while doing it.