carry on brother... Dont know what your story is but quite honestly (for reals) I dont really care. At any rate, yes there is miles of techonolgy and knowledge that is missed on most peoples clutch setup. Its just been in the last few years that Ive paid much attention to it, and after messing with the time loc, a hayes, and a couple other ideas, Ive resorted back to the "old fashioned ideas" but I do think the willburn setup is a good setup. My first concern is to not wreck parts, second concern is to get the bike down the track faster.. I did go back and read through all of this. Its my understanding that you are saying your same theorys apply from pavement to sand, not neccasarly the exact setup from one to another, and for that I completely agree. You can apply more power/less power in different areas of the track from one to the other, but yes the theory is the same.