Cattle, look.. First off, Ive never met you, but I like you. I think your a straight up old feller who is stuck in his ways and is a guy that most people would like to meet and have a beer with. Including me. But NOBODY CARES (atleast I sure the fuck dont and Im gonna bet that SB doesnt either) We dont care about your 3 wheelers, we dont care about you ancient sleds, we dont care about a 30 year old truck that you think is the greatest thing ever, we dont care about your homestead backwoods life style, we flat ass dont give a shit. This is 2012 (nearly 2013) and as I see it you are an older gentleman trying to impress younger people. "Ive got 100 trikes" as I recall from a thread "Ive got (x) DS's" Ive got an ancient sled that is meaningless to 99.9% of the motherfuckers that roll this earth..... You have to understand who you are dealing with. Now while I also agree with staying out of debt is a better way to go thats not how these motherfuckers roll. We dont have paid off houses, we want and do drive late model shit, we don't ride 3 wheelers, we have 150+hp 2 stroke and 4 stroke sleds noot some twin track manta or air cooled junk triples. WE FLAT OUT DONT FUCKING CARE ABOUT YOUR RELIC ASS SHIT.... Do I think NICE older shit is cool? Fuck yeah I do. Ive got some "old" things that are in mint shape and I will hang onto for as long as I can because I like them and Ive got alot of time in making them that way. REALITY is that your 1892 440 sled isnt gonna go a mile wide open either which is where this shit started. Are there SOME 2 stroke that will roll a mile WOT yep. Do I think anyone is willing to make a vid and do it on here? NOPE... SB wasnt challenging you or stating he has a problem with you. You MIGHT think you have a grasp on sleds. And you MIGHT have in 1970. BUT this is 2013 and the shit has changed, and not that you are clueless you arent up with the shit thats rolling around these days. Now that you have read my rant Ill tell you again, I like you, Id like to hang and drink a beer, but you gotta quite with this old man bragging shit your doing. Best regards GREEN