i have been thinking about a truck but im really not a truck person so thats out of the picture, im looking to finance something so it will have to be something that i am going to not have problems with and i will keep for at least 5 years , the CL-s up to 03 imo isnt something that appeals to me and i dont think they come in manual shift, i have heard wrx trannys are junk aswell, i would like to go the acura/honda route for reliability, performance, and style , what would be alot of miles for an acura 04+ tl or tsx, i dont drive far at all so i wount be putting alot of miles on it ,............ around here you can get an 04 or 05 tl in 6 speed with 80k for about 12-14k, same with the tsx