LaegerEliminator

Yes, Ford is good about recall notices. We have received them over the years for little things on each of the trucks.

This is NOT exclusive to Fords either. This will happen on Dodges as well. I have personally watched it happen on the highway. It is due to geometry and straight axle front end designs. None of my 6 Ford SD's in approximately 730,000 miles combined, have ever done this.

I will have more info to add to this later today after the next round of plowing. The issues are NOT Ford exclusive. I spoke to a neighbor last night who had a towing business and has had both Ford and Dodge. More details later.

Rubberneck, I'm not forgetting to respond. I've been plowing snow for too many hours the last three days. I will respond when I get caught up.

Rubberneck, I will respond again when I can. Have to get some shut eye before getting up at 3:00 am to plow again.

Yep. Guilty as charged. At least I use paragraphs.

Just to be clear, I intentionally avoided purchasing a 6.0 until late 2006 due to all the hearsay at the time. I didn't have any kind of understanding as to the details of the dreaded 6.0 issues and what really caused them. Just limited amounts of info told to me by others who really didn't understand either. The only reason we ended up with one is a client died who owed me a large chunk of money. The estate settled with me by giving me the truck. The truck was almost new at the time. We planned to sell the 6.0 truck to recoupe the cash, instead we ended up keeping it as we needed another truck at the time. We have experienced some of the stereo typical 6.0 issues and we have resolved them. I made the decision to dig in deep and find put exactly why the failures were occurring and how to prevent them. Once I fully understood, the whole negative stigma to the 6.0 became a much smaller deal. It is no secret the 6.0 had issues, and it is no secret that a lot of consumers paid the burden one way or another. I do still maintain that 90% or more of those issues are emissions related. I still maintain that your summarizing statements on the 6.0 and 6.4 are not fully accurate. I will leave it up to you to find out the whole truth if you want from another source. For me at the end of the day, those issues can be resolved and you still have the best and most durable truck on the market regardless of which powerstroke motor it is powered by. And for the record, if a Cummins was offered in a Ford, I would definitely chose the Cummins power option. No one can deny what a Cummins offers on the overall.

Ha! Lol No, I am not going to turn this debate into a personal attack on your character or on what you do to earn a living. My point was this: You know as well as I do then that there is a reason they say physicians are "Practicing Medicine" Even some of the most highly educated people in our society, doctors, don't have all the answers every time and they even make mistakes. They are learning new ways everyday. The same reality holds true for the big three truck manufacturers. Constantly learning and improving based upon finding out what does and does not work.

Cool. I will respond and make my point in the morning. I will keep it short.

Rubberneck, did I read correctly a little while back that you are in the medical field? What is your occupation exactly?

Hey! There's a great idea. Maybe the passenger seat could have one installed that can be activated when GM and Dodge lovers ride along.

Yep, you're right. Nope

Apparently you haven't ridden in a worked over 6.4 powerstroke? With just a tuner and exhaust the flat out move. My 550 work truck with tuner and exhaust flat out walks away from our 6.0 by multiple truck lengths. The 6.0 has a tuner, ficm tune and exhaust. The 6.4 can be turned up one more notch on the tuner too. The 550 weighs about 12,500 lbs with no fuel. Our 6.0 is about 8,600 lbs and is on 37's with 3:73 gears. The 6.4 motor has huge potential hidden inside of it.

Where is this?

Like I said, I've owned and have been around others. For my line of work the Ford is simply the best choice. If I was to use a truck for lighter duty use and primarily on the highway, I would give GM a consideration again, but highly doubt I would switch. We all have to figure out what works best for ourselves, thus there are still three major contenders who each offer their own unique qualities.

Black Ford Super Duties FTW !!!

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Keep in mind I grew up in a GM family. We drove GM gas and diesels all over the west coast and to Oklahoma every year towing horse trailers. GM builds an awesome daily driver, highway use type of truck. They drive and ride awesome. No one can argue those qualities about a GM truck. I can guarantee you for certain if I had used my last GM truck, a '93 extended cab srw 3500 diesel, like I did my first '99 F350 extended cab srw diesel truck, that I would have either snapped the truck frame in half, waisted the tranny and very likely would have broken the front end. A local snow plow guy here has a 2012 Chevy 3/4 ton. Last year would have been his second season plowing with the truck. He broke his front frame rails where the plow mounts attach to the truck frame. He is running the same Boss plow that I use, but he has never run extension wings like I have for the last 5 years on my '99 F350. The wings add considerable pressure and wear to.the truck. This guy is an owner operator who has owed for years and drives his truck exclusively.

What chassis and what rear end gears?

For Rubberneck and Bennett and any other naysayers, I stand my opinions based upon a LOT of personal experience, not just hearsay. I have four 7.3 powered Super Duties with a combined 730,000 miles on them. Two currently are at 200,000. The other two are 160,000 and 170,000. Each of these four trucks have been used almost exclusively for heavy work applications and have been driven by various employees over the years. Those four trucks have had very few repairs, beyond typical maintenance items like brakes, ball joints, clutches, and tires. Zero internal engine problems and only a couple of small engine electric components, primarily glow plug relays. At one point I had 5 employees driving 7.3 powered Fords. All of our extended family are driving Ford 7.3 and 6.0 trucks as well. They simply work well and hold up well. I have two buddies who live in my state in other larger cities with similar business to mine. Both run Ford almost exclusively. One has about 15 Fords in his fleet the other has closer to 20.

I'd like to hear some more info on your friends who windowed 7.3 blocks. I can pretty much guarantee you those trucks were running aggressive tunes and most likey poorly done custom tuning intended to support other mods, like bigger injectors. PMR Rods are a weak link in the 01, and some select 02 and 03 motors. They only become a weak link in a high horse power build, or when someone screws up the tuning. When left alone, or with mild tuning and mods, a 7.3 that is cared for will reliably for many many years. Your comments on the required fixes for a 6.0 and 6.4 are not accurate. They have nerely identical flaws due mostly (90%) to emissions systems flaws. The 6.7 Ford built diesel motor will very likely be an excellent long term performer. It is Ford designed, engineered and built. Ford simply makes very high quality oem parts across the board. The fit and finish is on par or better then GM of their body work and interiors. Ford's rolling components, brakes, front ends, ball joints, ect are simply stronger then the IFS of GM and consistently out last similar designs offered by Dodge/Ram. It's s proven fact the the Ford E4OD, 4R100, 5R110 and 6R140 transmissions hold up far longer then the Allison and the various automatic offerings from Dodge / Ram. I would say the same goes for the ZF6 manual from Ford as well.

Don't forget, putting scratches in your new concrete driveway while plowing snow with a tooth bucket.

From what I read in snow management trade magazines, pretty much all of the North Eastern states pour the salt on the winter roads and parking lots. It's not nere as common here. On a visit to Hawaii years ago, the first thing I noticed was that almost virtually every car and truck that I saw that was about 3-5 years was starting to show quite a bit of rust. I was surprised. I have to imagine the aggressive use of salt in the North East is going to have similar effects as the ocean air, especially to any vehicle that isn't washed thoroughly and frequently to clean the salt scuz off.

Rotted out, as in rust? Aren't you in Michigan or that general area?

Yep. And it definitely sucked. But, I wanna know what Mr. Duncan's reasoning is.