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Not quite. Now you can clear up the BIG ONE..... Since I made the effort to cross check my claims on 5 different dynos, and even Mat Shearer couldn't hit a number above 97 with that 10 mill cylinder you bought back.......(shipped direct from his dyno testing to you) Maybe you can address the big question. Now that you have the whole top end....does YOUR dyno testing of that combo show higher than mine and the 5 other dynos?.......Or did ya just fuck up on that port job?

Then tell your lap dog to quit bringing the topic up. These comments have ONLY ever been offered as rebuttal to his comments. As a matter of fact, if you weren't so busy telling him every little thing between us, he wouldn't get on here and work so hard to bash me. I had moved on from that motor. It was sitting in a box. I had contacted members via PM to try to sell if OFF THE PUBLIC FORUMS to try to avoid bringing on drama. Not once in those PM's did I bash you or the motor. YOU TOLD ME YOU WANTED TO BUY IT BACK BECAUSE YOU WANTED TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM BEFORE IT GOT PASSED ONTO THE NEXT OWNER. DIDN'T WANT A PROBLEM CYLINDER WITH THE REDLINE NAME ON IT FLOATING AROUND OUT THERE. I still have you in my profile. I wasn't putting you on blast. But your boy Tyler got his panties in a twist about Frank saying that if he had to do it all over again, he would use a different builder. It was one quick little post that could have just passed on without notice. But Tyler had to go ape shit, go for the kill, bash Frank, bring me into it and imply I was bashing you (when I was the guy who recommended you to Frank) and then take it to the next level by bashing Me, Frank, Jay and IPS as a whole. What's Frank's issue? You told him his build would be in the 80+ range. You told him his race gas 4 mill that you built dyno'd at 83HP……..then YOU sent a dyno curve only showing 78. (Regardless of what another dyno called it, that's YOUR tune on YOUR dyno. Those are YOUR numbers) Now since we have the master here to discuss this……it has been posted on this site that you built a ported stock cylinder 4 mill that made 85HP on pump gas with FMF pipes. Is that a false statement by that member?

You had your chance to talk in person.I called you out and you packed up and left. I don't see you answering my questions. Address Franks situation.......

I never said Trinity wasn't capable of doing something right once and a while. But you have never been willing to face the fact that for a very long time, dysfunctional dome designs with convergent squish was the norm coming out of that place. As has been stated by more than just me......scary squish measurements are more common than not. All you ever talk about is your clutching methods. I don't think anyone else you're racing is using the extensive methods with the clutch slipping, heat treating and oil management tricks. So.....I'd say it's more clutch than motor. Proof is.....all the people that try your clutch ideas saw improvement. Yet they all had different motors.

^^^ POW! Yes, and I can sit patiently for 2 years working to figure out why my REDLINE 10 mill was only making 97HP…..Called Cameron 4 times about it too. But even after putting it on 5 different dynos and having 3 different tuners try….97 was the top number. Then I have to listen to Tyler tell me I don't know how to tune. Must be me. Apparently Cameron can get a ported stock cylinder 4 mill on pump gas and FMF's to hit 85HP……But Frankthetank gets a 4 mill REDLINE motor that can't break out of the 70's (AS TUNED BY CAMERON) on race gas with CPI's…..but he should sit quietly too. But don't say anything negative about REDLINE…….. And put my issue on the back burner for a second and address this question. If none of the Team Redline guys question that guys statement about his 4 mill hitting 85 with FMF's and pump gas...Shouldn't Frank be able to question why his motor can't make 85HP without Tyler jumping down his throat about it? Till Tyler flipped out about that post…..I hadn't publicly said a damn thing negative about my motor or Redline.

You can't even follow a story. I explained WHY his dyno reads off. His stack is in the path of the exhaust. If you can't keep up with the details....don't pretend to see the whole picture. So are any of you man enough to step up and say you honestly believe 85HP with FMF pipes on pump gas is plausible?

All the usual suspects are up tonight. Hey Mike…….just remember…..that daddy is the one who clued you into what a steaming pipe your bike really was. (And fixed it for ya) 97HP from a 10 mill cheetah and YOU were clueless enough to think it was a strong motor. What a moron. (And I predicted the power levels YEARS before you finally found out) I made more with a Trinity mess 4 mill cheetah. LMFAO Wait…wait tell me again about how your 10 mill Cheetah is going to make 120+ on alky. Especially since my 10 mill super (That rendered the Cheetah design obsolete) is already making 130 with In-Frames.

Bucky had his moments in the sun. Question is…….why wasn't that big 24DM walking on everything by bikes? I always here HP = Top speed

Because being informed is what I do. If nobody checks these things…..then people would believe your positive feedback about Passion. (Now that you know….your not talking them up like you use to) Same thing with 10millMike. He spent years telling me his Cheetah was bad ass…..Till he found out it only made 97HP. (Now he amped the motor up and he's back to being stoked about it…but that isn't the point.) See the point is, the conversation has to have a base of info to work from. Do you have any idea how many people think they have 100HP 4 mill Cubs just because they read it on the web? The point is……there are plenty of guys with 75 HP bikes that truly believe they are making 90+. Take the Servals as an example. (And I'm just going off info that was widely shared here over the last few years) When the Servals cam out, they were supposed to bolt together and make 80/50 on pump gas. Most people saw numbers that were more realistically 78/47. (And that was with bigger carbs and a wide variety of pipes) Now the CP cylinders are pretty good as delivered. Porting in general usually can add about 5 HP (and of course a little stronger curve) But all in all a 5HP gain is average. That would bring the motor up around 83HP. Now take a look at it from my point of view……The claimed 96HP 4 mill Serval with 28's…..Subtract 13% = 83.5HP (Right on par with where the numbers sound realistic) If people wanna believe 96HP with 28's……more power to ya. BUT ALL THOSE SAME PEOPLE have posted for YEARS about people needing 35's for basic bolt on motors. Is the belief that throwing 35's on that Serval will put it in the triple digits? What about the guy who said they got 85HP out of FMF pipes on a pump gas 4 mill build? I'm a big fan of the FMF FATTY's….but come on! Let's be real. Tyler….139/76? If anyone has a SC making those number for real…..I'm happy for them. But I'm convinced those numbers are really 121/66 If I'm wrong……then enjoy the power. It doesn't matter at all to me because there is ALWAYS someone faster and bigger at every event. I'm not trying to buy the most power ever. Heck at the HQ ride 465's, 521' and a big 24DM were trading wins. Proof there is always somebody who is going to find a way to buy a win. But….people should base their adulation on a reality that can be repeated. But the harsh truth is people are stupid. They voted for Obama because nothing sells better than hope. Nothing makes products fly off shelves like hope. They hope this product makes them loose weight, look younger, smooth wrinkles, improve mileage, save money, grow hair, add 10HP, etc…. If my comments destroy you dreams of hope and shatter your illusions…..then hate away. But just like Dave5.0 case….before you go telling me a bunch of positive things about a builder or a product……go find out for SURE on your own time. The missing power may not be a big deal to you…..be for someone who found hope in your initial review….they might be pissed to find out the guy who told them Passion did great work was dead wrong. (Especially if their motor never got shipped back) LOL As for the swing arm question…..the season is almost over for me. I have one last dirt ride planned. Then I'm pulling the +6 arm off my play bike and sending it back to JL to remove the black powder and get it chromed. Then YES, he will be building an arm for my drag bike. (A ladder style….but I don't think arched. We'll see)

If you weren't going to try to figure out why it was down on power.....what difference does the number mean? You were openly happy with it making LESS than an unported cylinder.

Just sitting back shaking my head at the latest REDLINE claims. It's bad enough I gotta read about a low port timing Serval with little carbs making a claimed 96 HP......But then I find that gem of a post where a ported stock cylinder 4 mill made 85HP on pump gas with FMF'S.....FFS If NOBODY on this site has the balls to call BS on that shit.......well then you all deserve to enjoy a lifetime of MattG posts. His shit talk isn't any worse than those dyno claims. Let the low information crowd soak that crap up. This site is getting more like E2S by the minute.

Bass boat mega metalic glitter finish FTW!

If you mean a black garbage bag filled with shop rags, old man polyester pants and packing peanuts.......than OK. I guess I can see that.

Crocodile Dundee had a knife. Crocodile MattG has no tools. I sort of picture his crib still having a crib. ....or maybe a racecar bed.

He can't even get us a pic of a shitter. LOL How hard can that be? Matt....go home....walk into any room....take a picture. There....easy pics of a shitter.