if your gona get a craptor, at least get the 700, not just for the slightly larger motor and efi but the ergos are a bit better than the 660 too and cut a little weight, although they still need some +2's and better shocks (havnt ridden an SE with those shocks but im sure they couldnt be much better than the stiff ass 450- shocks), some higher bars would help too, the stock position you lean too far forward. they shit a shit ton of torque and can lug around a gear too high and stab the throttle and they will just pull through like a train, they are pretty much the total opposite of riding a banshee, yfz's are alot of fun but kinda small and vibrate you numb in 20 mins, either way they both great bikes and ALMOST as fun as the banshee