Ohton Racing

You are right, you have been a gentleman don, I was referring to last months post. sorry to bring up old stuff.

no need for me to create more havoc with you, but you did say you purchased the wheel for $500 and you wanted money, I am saying once again, how much may I send you since you really did not buy the wheel as you said? Are you going to send me receipts on the other stuff? Come on the wheel is not $500, if it is then buy it and send me the receipt from Lonestar and I will pay you the difference. I am willing to take care of you dollar wise, but you need to send me those receipts! Since I am willing to send you cash then there is no reason why you would not want to send the receipts! Here is the facts, I pay cost on the heim joints, radiator you purchased the billet wheel for $100 seperate from the chassis which it states on your receipt. I refunded you $275 on the radiator, heim joints and tie rods $46, and $100 for the seperate purchase on the wheel. you are wanting me to pay you full retail for all the parts including the seperate purchase of the billet wheel. I have already refunded you the cost of parts of $421, now you want more, so I say how much? send me those receipts and I will overnight you the difference. I only banned you form PS because you have stated in public forums that I fucked you in your ass without a HUG! why wouldnt I

We have a chassis that is completley done except for motor mounts, we were waiting on a guy that was going to buy it for a Snowmobile engine. Since we have not heard from him it is available right now. I can fabricate in the engine and add some brackets for your other items. We have a CNC Plasma Cutter so all the brackets and tabs we do here now. charlie@ohton.com

thats cool smoknbanshee, that still means the whole mad customer story he gave damien and the phone call from a girl was a fake phone conversation since it maybe jeffs own chassis. maybe he just needed spare rod ends! sorry that was just kinda funny!

question to ornange crush, your opening argument was that you purchased a billet wheel for $500 and I said send me a receipt, later on you contradicted yourself and state that you never bought a wheel from lonestar. I am waiting for an answer on what I know owe you? they price retail from lonestar is $375 so can you show me that receipt for $500, or where you just thinking I would not call your bluff? I have not started to pick apart your post but we can get there, I talked to Kory from Glendale Steel today, he agrees, and he is not to happy about the volker gang! After all this shit you guys have said about me, all I have done is confronted it and gave you the numbers to confirm it. I am the victim right now, nobody else. so answer my question what do I owe you? and what do you guys owe me for the bullshit, lies and slander? I recieved a private message on Planet Sand, it says if I buy you a billet wheel and invite you to the Planet Sand Drags, you guys will leave me alone and this post will be removed. Well jeff they did include you in there deal, I guess your not as close as you want to be. Hey I thought your were going to buddy up as you put it, and pay for some stuff for troy! why didn't you get him cost on his parts, if you did the bill wouldnt be so high! When I talked to you on the phone before you told me some things about jeff that you did not like, but you kept him around anyways. you said he had problems! you know what the truth is about him, you just wont tell him!

Wow nice post Jeff Close aka 535/525 70 atc you are very informative, we should all take lessons from you and your ethics. I have always known that when a person is confronted on something, you can kind of get a clue on if they are lying based on there direct answer! In this case your comments only show that you are a liar! ------------------ Here is the latest after I talked to Quick16 this morning, he is a new advertiser on Planet Sand. By the way your name was brought up until last. here it is ---------------- This is what happened with Jeff Close and Damien - Quick16; you can call Damien if you need to! Damien aka Quick16 has only sold 2 chassis in Florida, 1 to Rick Farmer and the other to Jeff Close (Extreme Lies). Damien sends chassis all over the country without anything showing up missing. Is it only a coincidence that when Damien shipped one to Jeff Close that he claimed parts were stolen off it during shipping. He told Damien that all the rod ends were stolen in shipping and that he needed to send more. Damien Shipped out a (2nd) Batch of rod ends, his tracking number shows that it was delivered to Jeff Close (Extreme Lies) Shop and was signed for by someone from that shop. Anyone can sign with a fictitious name! But was delivered to the correct address!! Jeff called Damien and complained that parts were stolen again, Jeff had his customer call Damien to try and prove he was not lying, does this mean he already had guilt on his shoulders. The customer that called Damien was a girl; she demanded a 3rd batch of parts. Maybe I am mistaken but doesn't Don Sterling own this Quick16 Chassis? Okay well however Damien felt Jeff was lying, so he told jeff he would have to pay for this 3rd Batch of parts at $165. Jeff said he was good for the money and to just send them so he could get the chassis done for his female customer. He guaranteed that he would send a Paypal that same night, Damien gave him his email account for that transaction! This happened more then 3 months ago, since that time Damien never received his Paypal for $165, Damien sent private messages asking Jeff "are you ever going to pay me?" weeks later Damien Called Jeff and he said that he has no time because he is building a track in Florida. Damien said well Jeff you promised me the money months ago. Jeff said to forget Paypal, how about a check, Damien gave Jeff his address and to this day has never received a check either. No phone calls either! Pay your debt Jeff!! Call Damien 225-931-3738 I posted his phone number in case you lose it again!

you can do better then this right? you are a business right? Extreme whatever out of Florida! that is not a credible excuse, damien is on the phone with me right now, he said this happened way before you were kicked off Planet Sand, All of a sudden you lose his phone number and it takes you months to get it? It would not take months to get a number for him! You could have received it from one of your close friends who happends to have a quick16 chassis! You could have received it from your customer who called him about the parts! You know it is really strange that you never paid him and you now state that you lost his number, you had his number when you made the purchase and asked him to float you the parts until that evening. So you lost his number within 12 hours from when you made the order, most telephones have a log and most phones have a long distance bill once a month. stop replying to me, just accept the fact that YOU are the real liar, I would think that your friends need to keep an eye on you because you have some issues of your own! Dyno Don made a very nice gentleman post and so did the actual buyer ornange crush, you however continue to make yourself look bad. You take much offense, your pattern does exist!

yes I agree, sometimes going to the source is the only way to figure out who is lying, and it's not me. how about you other guys not directly involved here, I love 2 strokes what about you? I look forward to leftovers and turkey sandwiches tommorow, lol

either I am confused or there is more lies, you stated in the begining post that you already paid $500 for the billet wheel from lonestar, here is your quote!!! """ So far it has cost me a lot more then that. Billet wheel from lone star-my cost around $500, radiator $ 375, 10 hime joints $50 and tie rods $40 for a total of $965 minus $421=$521 Charlie Ohton still owes me. """ my response was that if you sent me a receipt showing your purchases I would reimburst you if that was fair to you, now it looks like you have no wheel and never purchased nothing for $500 that wheel was a gift for $100 which I refunded you for, -------------- So now what ? you have no wheel as stated you did not spend $500 what would you like me to do for you? how much do you feel I owe you now? ----------------

Lots of rumors out there and without a doubt many are absolute lies, Rumor about a bad deal with Glendale Steel Supply, some stupid crap about taking engines and unpaid Chromoly! Don

I thought you did not have anymore time for me, how about this for you! I just got off the phone with Damien Quick16, Black Label Racing 225-931-3728 he said that he sold you a chassis several months ago, along with the chassis he sent you a sealed box, someone from your shop signed for it (ups tracked) later you then called him saying that the parts in the box must have been stolen in shipping, you requested that he (damien quick16) sends you another sets of parts and that you would paypal him that night. you even had your customer call him that was mad. Damien Quick16 is still waiting for your paypal of $165 Jeff Close aka Extreme Lies, please pay quick16 the $165 you owe him. if you lost or cheated him on the parts you still promised him a paypal of $165, anyone may call him to confirm this issue.

its obvious, you have a pattern, you show anger and throw out anything you can, then you edit posts and act nice when your called on, it's okay I feel sorry for you, you really need to let your friends fight there own battles and stop trying to get in the middle of other peoples business. you really caused your friend and business owners more harm then good. I live with the fact that i am a good person and if I have to give back then I will to make my customers happy. there is no need to respond to me anymore, let it go now..

You are not very smart 535, thats why ou keep editing your posts where I call your bluff! The facts are Orange crush purchased a chassis from me and has it in hand right now! He currently has $2479 into it and has been told to send in his receipts to get more resolved! Bottom line is he had his chassis before he had the rest of the parts to make it run!

535banshee, I have caught you and your sidekick in lie after lie! But between all of you I am not sure who lies more! I guess your jealous and pissed because I can purchase a billet wheel for $100, maybe I can't get them all the time, but I have in the past. Well let tell me you that lonestar also gave me an $8000 chassis of choice and 2 billet axles for my event. Chuck Northrop won the chassis from me in a drawing, that is why Lonestar has a lifetime logo on Planet Sand, do you think i might have a special relationship with them!! They are located 15 minutes from me and I can just walk in anytime, so you can keep believing in yourself that I cannot get a good deal. I have no problem passing along a good deal even if it costs me a few bucks for a customer that purchased an entire chassis from me. I am pretty sure Lonstar does not want me telling anyone they gave me a cash in hand walk in deal on a billet wheel, I am sure that Dan Hall did not want you to involve him in your posts where I proved you wrong before, I am sure that Quick16 can also deal with me on his own, and you still continue to speak for Orange Crush like his is a kid that cannot speak for himself as a man. You are worthless heresay in my book! Get a Life!

Wow, Some of the stories are in fact amazing, I am disgusted at how stories get so far out of synch, Yes you are right; there are always 2 sides to a story, We could battle it out forever, my text vs. your text! Life is to short for that! I have admitted my time management faults and apologized to you. Your buddies were giving me a hard time on the net while you were being cool on the phone, think there could have been a problem with that since I sold you the chassis not them! Orange Crush all I can say to you is YES I AGREE you did keep your cool with me and never showed that you were pissed off whatsoever!!! In fact you told me several times that I could take my time because you did not think you were going to be ready until NOVEMBER! Your coolness led me to believe that you were okay with my timeframe and I could continue taking my time with your chassis! Don