SlowerThanYou

The DMX is back home. We are hoping to do some short 200' street hits on it the end of Dec. This old man might even launch it a couple of times, LOL! Hoping to get it to the track in Jan. or Feb. for some 1/8th mile times. This whole combo is outdated, heavy & a big 290 lb. rider. Needless to say, we will not be setting the world on fire! Below is a pic of it, hopefully it's the right one. I can't see them on this 3rd world site. [img]https://i.imgur.com/ThhrE75.jpg[/img]

The DMX is supposed to be delivered this coming weekend. I'm not sure I'm ready to deal with it! The race car is the priority, as it has always been, but I always made or found time for the quad racing. The good thing is we only have one race planned for its comeback in May 2025, Kingman Street Drags. The plan is to at least get some testing done. Hopefully one time at the track before the event & maybe some short test hits on the street with a Dragy.

I don't see the pics, but I use a computer. I do see the pics using Tapatalk, but hate using the phone for this shit. My understanding from Angel is the DMXs are not the ticket to run in 300'. He says the DMs are the way to go over the DMXs. As for the Q16 we were well versed in using it in our 443 Cub. We were quicker & faster than on methanol. I think we started out running the Q with the DMX. Just remember don't put your nose to the can opening & take a sniff. We call that shit Rat Poison!

I'm trying to inspire myself. The DMX has been sitting idle since 2019 & I wanted it to be used. Angel is done riding & Justin wants to race it; the issue is he's 6'3" 270 lbs. It might get used once or twice a year. Anyway, it shouldn't give me too many headaches. These are the most recent pics I have. The Quad is fully assembled & needs to be fired up. The only major change to the motor is switching back to Q16 from alcohol. The motor should still put out around 160 hp. [img]https://i.imgur.com/fNZve7y.jpg[/img] [img]https://i.imgur.com/PduOYmN.jpg[/img]

Thanks, K110! I don't understand why I can't see what I post for pics. Yes, that was the DMX laid out before assembly. The cases were machined for sprocket clearance.

Thanks, SpecialBender! I'm not going anywhere, but it's hard to get inspired to post. The infamous DMX will live, with or without the BHQ!

🤔 Hmmmmm.......decision(s), I'm on the edge of my seat!

Thanks, Special!

Motor is done & installed in the frame. Hopefully be finished up & fired soon on rat poison! I would post pics but can't see what's being posted.

I don't know, I can't see the pics.

Slowly making progress! Hoping to get some type of testing done this winter. [img]https://i.imgur.com/V7Bj9YX.jpg[/img] [img]https://i.imgur.com/TAKlskm.jpg[/img]

I hope it helped! I've been doing this for 35+ years & it's somewhat easy for me to do naturally. It's a different story when you try to explain it in written form to others. While I think we have mainly been talking about .500 sportsman/full tree. I'm well experienced in both the .400 & .500 pro light, leaving off top bulb .500 full tree with a delay box & still working on a blocked tree leaving off the last bulb.

Update, waiting on parts, hope to get some testing done this fall/winter. Angel is completely rebuilding the engine; he did find a broken piston. 1/4 mile is hard on a 2 stroke! We're converting it back to the Rat Poison race fuel. We will primarily use it for 1/8-mile asphalt racing or shorter but not ruling out 300' sand/dirt.

Let's start with your 1st sentence in the main paragraph. So, a racer is cutting consistent shit/slow RTs or red lighting. I know I'm going to make changes to the race vehicle(s) set-up to change the RT! Now, for the second sentence. There's only one time a year I set up for a perfect RT. We have a 50K run for the money. A perfect package wins, we set-up for a .000 RT. The rest of racing against an opponent we don't shoot for perfect RT. Reaction times have a variance based on different factors. We try to keep that variance as tight as possible: Let's use a .010 RT variance for testing/qualifying. During racing if I set up for a perfect RT. The RTs are going to vary -.005 - .005, going red isn't going to work for my racing. Now, take that same .010 variance & set-up for a .005 RT medium; you theoretically get RTs in the .000 to .010 range. I do agree with staging shallow as possible to keep RTs & ETs the most consistent.

JSins, Wow, someone posted in the Drag Forum! I see you recently joined & the above post is your 1st. Thanks for contributing!

Thanks to Angel taking over the DMX project & totally redoing the porting, domes, pipes, just to name a few things. The DMX ended up running low 3.60s & a couple high 3.50s in the 300'. This wasn't the intended purpose for the motor, but it kind of went that direction. Somewhere around 2017 the DMX went back to asphalt 1/4 mile with the last time being ran was 2019. It runs consistent low 9.80s. More to come, not that it really matters.

Jeff, I hope you had a great Holiday weekend. I wanted to let you know that my son is following my footsteps. He ordered some Shear in-frame drag pipes for you. Glad to see he has good taste. I wish he ordered more from you, but he's more of a rider than a builder/tuner. Anyway, I'm getting back into the Banshee business. Angel wants to give back the DMX drag bike back to daddy! Hope all is well, 2BKING!

Hope to do some type of update to this thread in the future.

The reason I came back & updated this thread is because............the DMX is coming home to Daddy! I hope to share some of DMX's accomplishments, why it's coming back to me & what's the plan(s) for future of the infamous DMX.

Thanks Special, I visited about a year ago or so! I actually read this whole thread yesterday & today; what a shyt show on most counts, including myself. There's a reason for bringing it TTT. Hope to provide some updates to the thread.

TTT, for my good friend Tedder!

I can't share the photobucket crap anymore. Maybe I can explain it to you if you have a question.

I have a very strong opinion on this & I argue with Angel about this pretty often. Weight isn't everything, here's our example. 443 cub on race gas, stock frame (320 lbs.) & a 220 lb. rider. It was pulling low 1.30s & running 84 mph in 300'. That really isn't shit anymore, but back in the day it was making noise. Anyway, I don't get hooked on the weight deal, but it's important. I put the most emphasis on tuning #1, the proper rider (not just the lightest), maintenance & weight.

This thread was intended to bring light to a subject (clutch tuning) that was pretty much not being used in the Quad world when the thread was started! Keep your open mind about people doing things differently, nothing wrong with that. IMO, the key in this thread has always been the baseline, 1st post & should be the same for anyone! Now, you mention pulling base pressure & watch your 60's improve, then start adding or taking away arm weight. I hope that's not what people are taking away from the thread. I try & stress baseline 1st, then make changes from there with adding or subtracting base pressure. I'm sure, I've mentioned that I think most run too much base pressure. You mention a ? about slipping the clutch on shifts. It works & it's a very fine line. The key in a small or larger motor is staying around the peak power during the run. The window gets bigger usually with the larger motor. I can't remember if I mentioned it in this thread or another, an example of or rpm window of our 443 cub. It was a very narrow rpm window.

Slipping badly, needs more base pressure/more spring. The 60' time really sucked for the ET it was running, but was really making up for it between 60' & 330'. It was running deep into the 3.80s in 330'. We have been 3.60 in 300' on sand. The asphalt set-up is currently running a 2.0 final gear ratio & probably needs a 1.80 - 1.90 final ratio. It gets pretty tricky to make that ratio & the clutch right for 1/4 mile. Angel has done a great job with the DMX. He has totally changed the timing, dome set-up, some huge lectrons & changed back cone on the pipes. Plus, a bunch of smaller changes. We plan on changing out the beefy/heavy rods that K&T wanted in the motor. Actually, that whole K&T motor set-up has been redone by Angel.