A stock ds will be faster than a stock banshee, but who rides a stock banshee? The ds is an awesome quad, but it's too big for trails, and my friends vibrates the hell out of the foot pegs. I personally don't have any problems on the trails with my banshee. If your looking for a trail bike, I don't think you'll be happy with the biggest, heaviest, No reverse sport quad you can get, and thats the ds. Picking that F*%ker up out of some ruts is almost a two man job, especially at the end of the day. I think they are a great quad, but my sheee is faster, lighter, and fits better on the trails even with my +2 arms. I forgot to mention they both seem very reliable. One of my best friends has had one since they came out, and hasn't had any problems.