About the whole Matt Smiley issue, the year before this one he was #1 on a predator. And as far as the whole Outlaw 525 VS. Renegade goes, how can anyone make even a little judgement on this when neither of them have been OFFICIALLY released. Sure someone might rode a prototype but prototypes and production models are hardly ever the same. I think the renegade is a cool idea and I think the Outlaw 525 is a cool idea, but I'm not going to get in a pissing match with anyone about what has the most horsepower, or what handles the best, when neither of them have even been released. If someone wants to drop a ton of cash on a renegade WHEN they come out, good for them, if someone wants to drop a bunch of cash on the outlaw 525 WHEN they come out, good for them too, but no matter who you are or what prototype you've ridden unless you are the first guy to a ride both quads as they are coming off the line, you don't have shit to say about horsepower/handling/etc. Don't mean to ramble, but thats just my .02